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The most powerful group of people, ever, Christians, who have the most powerful nation ever, USA, are celebrating the 4th of July with lots of explosions and rockets and just a general good time.
The sciences of evolution and big bang, having long since been shown to be fake news through fossils and star charting, are in the past.
America slowly but surely being made great again, with a wall, lots of guns, and the celebration of the year of our Lord Jesus Christ July 4th, 2018 A.D.
Sure is great to be a human, and not a relative of a slug, or a chicken.
Speaking of chickens... time to eat some.
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Patriotic knowledge of just how great USA has become... 4th of July... great time.
Oh, and no there is no proof at all of evolution.
Just the idea some of you keep posting little links on the subject is funny.
#ScienceWithoutThinking
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Posted byTemplar_Gon Jul 4, 2018, 9:02:10 PM
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I don't think saying Tony Podesta practices Thelema, and tried to invite his Clinton-campaign-managing brother to a Thelemic ritual performed by a work acquaintance of Jay-Z, is a nimrod thing to say. I do think that it has about as much import as (actually slightly less than) saying Tom Cruise is a Scientologist -- that is, not much at all, beyond MAYBE a South Park episode mocking their stupid religious beliefs -- but it's not a wrong thing to say.
We also concluded that step-siblings fucking each other isn't incest, so my defense of incest is now officially retracted, for the record.
When Stephen Colbert was killed by HYDRA's Project Insight in 2014, the comedy world lost a hero. Since his life model decoy isn't up to the task, please do not mistake my performance as political discussion. I'm just doing what Steve would have wanted.
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Posted byScrotieMcBon Jul 5, 2018, 12:25:01 AM
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In this books you people mention, Jesus is like some sort of philosophical Idea?
Poe Pvp experience
https://youtu.be/Z6eg3aB_V1g?t=302
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Posted byHead_Lesson Jul 5, 2018, 3:13:34 AM
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Bad example, Bill Nye cannot be taken seriously after his gender talks.
Like If you would invite a scientist to talk about the superiority of archeological evidences vs pure speculations but at the same time he would make videos elsewhere about aliens building pyramids.
Revelation TV Interview with Richard Dawkins, amazingly idiotic Creationist questions!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kk1RnwbFIps
What did Bill Nye say about gender and what does that have to do with evolution? Creationist guy had a nice presentation style even though his content was idiotic (he claimed you can't predict the past because you weren't there but provided no support for his implied claim that the laws of science had changed to prevent you from doing so.) Bill Nye seemed to do a good job too but it's probably much easier given that the evidence for his position is overwhelming.
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Posted byDurianMcgregoron Jul 5, 2018, 8:23:49 AM
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What did Bill Nye say about gender and what does that have to do with evolution?
He decided to follow the new fashion based on 0 evidence about Gender being a social construct and have different spectrum. By doing so he sided with unscientific claimants and charlatans.
Because there is no credible research made on the subject over a period of time a real scientist should not give such statement as facts. he just sided on the non scientific reasoning there.
So why anyone would take him seriously and his argumentation on the evolution theory if he do like the creationist and bullshit his way on other subjects?
Actually Gender is big part in the evolution of our specie, I will not open a gender debate but the way gender is promoted by bill Nye those days could maybe change a bite how we view the homo sapiens evolution. Why homo sapiens choose it s mate how they created their society around mating, the influence of gender in competition between individuals and if gender is a social construct when and were it been created during our evolution etc etc.
Poe Pvp experience
https://youtu.be/Z6eg3aB_V1g?t=302 Last edited by Head_Less on Jul 5, 2018, 8:57:29 AM
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Posted byHead_Lesson Jul 5, 2018, 8:53:08 AM
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The fact is that the right heavily leans on Christianity and often blurs the lines between the State and Religion. Should religion be part of governance? Should it be part of Law? The right seems to think that there is no other way for people to have a moral compass without an organized religion such as Christianity to govern that moral compass. The "left", as a result, tend to place a negative connotation on Christianity because the right has chosen to use it as a pillar of their political belief system.
The "left" doesn't rely on any specific religious pillar. So there is no central religion to demonize for the "left".
Saying everyone on the Right is an evangelocon is just as much of a strawman as saying everyone on the Left is a socialist.
As someone who identifies as a center-right atheist, I don't think moral compasses need to be instituted by law at all, thus any answer to "is is no other way for people to have a moral compass without an organized religion such as Christianity?" is a moot point. The purpose of law is to ensure we have the liberty to decide our moral compasses for ourselves, not have them thrust upon us by legislators or activist judges.
I didn't say everyone on the right. It is a spectrum game! Much like the poe general forums, the most vocal ARE the minority.
Where did I say the right was evangelical? There is no doubt that the right embraces religion more than the left. The fact that you are a center-right atheist is anecdotal and irrelevant to the conversation. There is a reason you are "towards the center"... because you don't fall into the relgion stuff like some that are farther right on the spectrum. Nowhere did I say everyone on the right is Evangelical...but I will say that if you are evangelical, then you are MOST LIKELY on the right. One is a subset of the other...not necessarily the other way around.
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The purpose of law is to ensure we have the liberty to decide our moral compasses for ourselves, not have them thrust upon us by legislators or activist judges.
How is that law determined?
"Thou shalt not kill."
What moral compass, if not religion, determines that killing others is bad? Animals kill each other for survival... territory... everything. Religion relegates the human mind into thinking we should live like a school of fish and not a territorial pack of hyenas.
In order to have law, you need a baseline of "good and bad"... where do you get that good and bad?
Charles Manson decided his "moral compass for himself" and landed him on death row based on the moral compass of the land in which he committed crimes.
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Posted byPrizyon Jul 5, 2018, 11:44:10 AM
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What moral compass, if not religion, determines that killing others is bad?
The moral compass of " most people don't want to see themselves killed and there is no reason in particular to go against that".
The authors of the religions that tells us killing is bad did not themselves get their morality from the teachings they authored. The chicken wasn't born from its own egg.
You won't get no glory on that side of the hole.
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Posted byUpandatemon Jul 5, 2018, 1:30:32 PM
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... Christianity preserved. Its messages of meekness and slave morality were useful tools for The Powers That Be that arose from the fall of Rome to keep their servants pacified, beginning a long period of human bondage.
This puzzles me, Scrotie. I don't think you mean slavery, per se, as that is as old as human societies, and common since the invention of agriculture. What do you mean by human bondage?
Okay, you're right that slavery existed prior to that point. But early Christianity took it to a new level.
Economically, early Christianity was "from each according to their ability, to each according to their wickedness." It glorified the slave not just as a victim but as a moral exemplar -- a role model. At the same time, it encouraged the rendering to Caesar what was Caesar's, without protest. Those were new ideas, and with practical uses for nonbelievers.
That's an interesting one, Scrotie. I can see what you mean. However, for the people living it, did Christianity not give them hope for something better in Heaven? Faith is a powerful comfort. It's not called the opiate of the people for it's stupifying effects alone.
30% off Romans were slaves. Did they not render unto Caesar too, without any hope for redemption?
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So don't post in threads like this. I've banned myself from the Trump thread, officially. Why swim in a sewer if you can smell it from half a mile away? You know what it is. You know no amount of words are going to drain it. Pretty sure the only reason I posted in here was to respond to someone I respect and trust not to be a nimrod. That's the trick to threads like these: ignore the OP and most people responding to the OP directly, unless someone you know can hold a genuine conversation chimes in, then respond to them, hijack the thing for a while harmlessly and move on.
Then again, we were talking about Templars, Baphomet, Evolution and now psychological representations of Christ, so it technically wasn't a hijacking so much as a detour from the overpriced, overhyped tourist traps and feeding troughs to take in some lovely local scenery.
"No amount of words are going to drain it". Ha!
Fate decided for me. I picked up the pendulum in the local thrift store for $3 yesterday. I got a page in, thought, this is lovely prose, and fell asleep. It was a long day.
In keeping, this is Nimrod.
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Asked where his army was, Abraham pointed to a swarm of gnats, which routed Nimrod's troops (see, however, below). Nimrod assembled his ministers and informed them of his intention to ascend into the heavens and strike down Abraham's God. His ministers having told him that it would be difficult to accomplish such a journey, the heavens being very high, Nimrod conceived the idea of building a high tower, by means of which he might accomplish his purpose (comp. Sanh. 109a). After many years had been spent in the construction of the tower, Nimrod ascended to its top, but he was greatly surprised to find that the heavens were still as remote from him as when he was on the ground. He was still more mortified on the following day, when the tower collapsed with such a noise that the people fainted with terror, those that recovered losing their speech (an allusion to the confusion of tongues).
Undaunted by this failure, Nimrod planned another way to reach the heavens. He had a large chest made with an opening in the top and another in the bottom. At the four corners of the chest stakes were fixed, with a piece of flesh on each point. Then four large vultures, or, according to another source, four eagles, previously fed upon flesh, were attached to the stakes below the meat. Accompanied by one of his most faithful viziers, Nimrod entered the chest, and the four great birds soared up in the air carrying the chest with them (comp. Alexander's ascent into the air; Yer. 'Ab. Zarah iii. 42c; Num. R. xiii. 13). The vizier opened alternately the upper and lower doors of the chest in order that by looking in both directions he might know whether or not he was approaching heaven. When they were so high up that they could see nothing in either direction Nimrod took his bow and shot arrows into the sky. Gabriel thereupon sent the arrows back stained with blood, so that Nimrod was convinced that he had avenged himself upon Abraham's God. After wandering in the air for a certain length of time Nimrod descended, and the chest crashed upon the ground with such violencethat the mountains trembled and the angels thought an order from God had descended upon the earth. This event is alluded to in the Koran (xiv. 47): "The machinations and the contrivances of the impious cause the mountains to tremble." Nimrod himself was not hurt by the fall.
After these adventures Nimrod continued to reign wickedly. Four hundred years later an angel in the form of a man appeared to him and exhorted him to repent, but Nimrod declared that he himself was sole ruler and challenged God to fight with him. Nimrod asked for a delay of three days, during which he gathered a considerable army; but this was exterminated by swarms of gnats. One of these insects is said to have entered Nimrod's nose, reached the chambers of his brain, and gnawed at it. To allay the pain Nimrod ordered some one to strike with a hammer upon an anvil, in order that the noise might cause the gnat to cease gnawing (comp. the same story in connection with Titus in Giṭ. 56b). Nimrod died after forty years' suffering.
What a complex figure.
it was three hundred and thirty three thousand hands high
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Posted byerdelyiion Jul 5, 2018, 6:01:54 PM
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it was three hundred and thirty three thousand hands high
Was that like, little asian hands or, giant trump like hands?
I'm still waiting for hands to sprout more fingers cuz we use keyboards so much we're probably gonna evolve them.
(cough cough evolution is a classic joke cough)
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Posted byTemplar_Gon Jul 6, 2018, 3:29:17 PM
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So, not even reading one spec of that wall...
It also amuses me how people can believe evolution happens, but somehow some creatures have been around for millions of years almost unchanged.
"It just happens, over millions of years", aka Fake Science.
Except when evolution doesn't happen at all over those millions of years.
Go figure.
No one "just evolved eyeballs, cuz, and a heart and blood and nervous system and etc etc etc".
The comedy of Fake Science never ends.
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Posted byTemplar_Gon Jul 6, 2018, 11:28:42 PM
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