"ten times" u say?

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and this is just 2 last, probably its all like that and shit hasnt changed, are u telling me there are no other ppl that actualy got some posts, have visited the site more than ONCE (just to register and never came back) that should get the invite instead? nice bullshit GGG, well developement
Well that's upsetting. Granted, I would be as giddy as a school girl if I were selected (Just signed up today. Would be a total slap in the face for those who have been waiting so long).
we r getting ass slapped, buttsecksed all the time, i dont believe its hard to make that thing skip ppl that have 0 posts and/or have been on the site just once as i said and actualy give chance to ppl that deserve that key = more tested things = better developement. But nah, why would they.
I tend to agree with the op, I see this many many many times :(
Do you understand how statistics work? If so, please explain how you think giving forum users 10x more of a chance should work.
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shiremux wrote:
we r getting ass slapped, buttsecksed all the time
What you do in your own time is your business. But... thanks for sharing, I guess?
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shiremux wrote:
i dont believe its hard to make that thing skip ppl that have 0 posts and/or have been on the site just once
No, it wouldn't be hard. It would, however, be unnecessary, detrimental to the beta, and unethical. So there's no reason to do that.
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shiremux wrote:
as i said and actualy give chance to ppl that deserve that key
Which is what the current system does. Those people signed up to show their interest in the beta - they deserve a chance at keys just as much as the next guy (or girl)
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shiremux wrote:
= more tested things = better developement.
Except that's not the case. There are people who post heaps and then provide no useful feedback, and there are people who don't post until they get in and then provide huge amounts of useful feedback.
Mark_GGG - What I think/thought he/she was refering to is what we keep on seeing is these 2 things together:

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For the people that are following things and not posting is not the issue that we are voicing - what we are saying is that these people only create an account then never come back which makes the people whom follow the game feel a bit aggravated when we see them invited.

I understand the words when you said "...unnecessary, detrimental to the beta, and unethical..." but I ponder as to why this would be. To at least have people following on the Site (Ex. Last Visited) and being genuinely interested and wanting to participate only serves to further your own goals/more productive beta testers then someone whom just created an account 'just for the heck of it' (can't think of a better term to use atm).

These are just my thoughts, I know not everyones but worded from my own experiences :)

Take care,

Keester

P.S. Yes, we are also being sore losers here about not recieving a key yet :P

*Edit: Horrible spelling & added P.S. comment
Last edited by Keester on Mar 4, 2012, 8:20:07 PM
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Keester wrote:
Mark_GGG - What I think/thought he/she was refering to is what we keep on seeing is these 2 things together:

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For the people that are following things and not posting is not the issue that we are voicing - what we are saying is that these people only create an account then never come back which makes the people whom follow the game feel a bit aggravated when we see them invited.
Those people are the ones I was talking about. You have no evidence that those people aren't visiting the site regularly, and we have data from looking at ips viewing the site that suggests a lot of them are.
Visiting the site and logging in are NOT the same thing. You can't just look at an account, see that it hadn't logged in, and then say they haven't visited the site. The only thing you need to log in to do is post. People can, and do, come visit the site and read the forums without ever logging in.
All you know about accounts like that is that they haven't logged in, and therefore haven't posted. NOT that they haven't been visiting the site.
And we do get people who don't log in and post until they get in, and then start posting and giving useful feedback.

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Keester wrote:
I understand the words when you said "...unnecessary, detrimental to the beta, and unethical..." but I ponder as to why this would be.
It would be unnecessary because it would involve work on our end for no real gain (and some loss).
It would be detrimental to the beta because the point of the beta is to get feedback to help improve the game. To make the game as good as possible for everyone, we need feedback from as wide a variety of people as possible. Making the proposed change would severly skew the kinds of people who get in to give us feedback towards those with lots of free time or who enjoy posting on forums, meaning we wouldn't be getting feedback from other kinds of people which would be relevant to helping make the game good for them too.
It would be unethical because we explicitly told everyone that signing up means you have a chance at the beta and you don't need to do anything else. Changing that now would be going back on our word and showing extreme disrespect for fans who've been following the game for a very long time. We already get lots of threads like this one where people make unfounded assumptions about others and how often they visit the site because they feel more entitled than others to something they were never promised. Imagine how much worse that would be if people were complaining that the fair chance they were promised and to which they are therefore entitled had been taken away from them?
Plus, going back on our word like that would just plain be a dick move, and here at GGG, we try not be dicks.
Cool, Thank you for the feedback and detailed explanation; as I read it I was thinking 'that needs to be stickied' :)

I'm just so used to my browser auto-saving my passwords that I forgot that you wouldn't necessarily need to be logged in in order to view - my mistake *bows humbly*
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