[3.2] Penta-Totem Ball Lightning Hierophant (3M Shaper DPS)

Is definitely a strong build but what he say is right the char is not so tanky even i have max resis 75% the shimmeron when u hit minus 400 lightning damage with 6 overcharged ur kind or risky the more ur hit the higher u lost regen faster
Were thinking drop ancestral and go for belly and change 2x kikazaru but dps will sure suffer
I have stop play this build and build another new theory build that not in forum yet but overall is powerful whether ur using indigon or not u can use the 2 unique mana flask and using essence of worm to link with wrath ok good luck and have fun!
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I want to use shield charge in this build, what would I use as my mainhand?
"Bonus points if it is Scion/Witch because they have nice knees. Ranger has ugly knees and other characters are men so playing them would be homoerotic." - CAKE, 10/20/21
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spiwn wrote:
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darciaz wrote:
I'm super confused -- where are you getting 3mil dps from? none of the average hits or total dps are indicating this, even with totems forced on.


Calculating the dps of Ball Lightning is different from most other things, so neither the tooltip in game, nor PoB show the truth.

In order to do that we must understand how Ball Lightning works:
Spoiler
The spell launches a projectile(a ball) that travels in a straight line with a constant speed, that "pierces" through enemies. The ball exists for 3 seconds. Every 0.2 seconds the ball deals damage to all enemies that are close enough to it (within its radius). If you have multiple balls (from different casts) that are close to the same enemy, they will all hit it.

What PoB shows as Dps is the dps if you had 1 totem and each Ball Lightning hits an enemy only once.


There are four things that you have to consider when figuring the theoretical dps:
1. The average hit damage
2. The number of totems
3. The number of balls of lightning that will exist at the same time, hitting the same enemy (being in range of it)
4. The number of hits each ball lightning will do on the same enemy for 1 second (since we are calculating damage per second)

If you multiply all the above you will get your total theoretical dps:
<Average Hit> * 5(totems) * 6 (balls) * 5 (times/second)
So if you average hit is 25000, you get 25000 * 150 = 3750000

Explanation:
Spoiler

Now to explain how we get those numbers:
The first one is easy, just look at PoB (not 100% accurate at the moment, but close enough). For the example let the average hit be 25000.
Second one -> 5 totems (1 base, 1 from Ancestral Bond, 1 from Soul Mantle, 2 from Ascendencies)
Third one is where it gets wierd. First we must figure out how long each ball of lightning will stay in range of the same target. For that we can use this spreadsheet. The number we are looking for is "Dps duration per cast" (or approximate it by multiplying 0.2s times the "Hits per cast"). The maximum is 3 seconds. So we have to figure out how many more balls of lightning we(or our totems) can cast in those 3 seconds. To do that, take the cast rate of Ball of Lightning of your totems and multiply it by 3 seconds. So if you have 2.0 casts per second cast rate. And 3 seconds of "Dps duration per cast". You get 2 * 3 = 6. So each of your totems will cast Ball of lightning 6 times before the first one disappears ( or gets too far away).

The forth number is easy as well. Ball of lightning hits 5 times a second.
Spoiler

Side note:
If your ball of lightning travels too fast or is too small (or both) it might not be within range of the enemy for a full second. This is when "Dps duration per cast" is less than 1 second. If that is the case then substitute 5 with the "Hits per cast" number (it will be less than 5).


So in other words if your totems have 2.0 cast rate of BL. Each of your totems will have 6 BLs existing at the same time, hitting the same target. Since you have 5 totems, you will have 30 BLs hitting the same target at the same time. And since BL hits 5 times a second, you will get a total of 30 * 5 = 150 hits per second. If you your average hit is 25000, then your theoretical dps is 3750000 (3.75M).

To simplify this we can represent it as PoB Dps * 5 (Totems) * 5 (hits per second) * 0.2 (BL damage time) * 15 (Ball Lightning Hits per cast) = PoB Dps * 5 * 15 (BL Hits per cast)

And that's it.


Couldn't explain it better :D
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darciaz wrote:
I want to use shield charge in this build, what would I use as my mainhand?



Playstyle:


place totems in front of you in a distance (where the mobs are or will be approx) ... shield charge...
...use the frenzy skill -- > flame dash back..

it's not the tankiest of all so you need be careful when to shield charge and when not..
also for bossing as mentioned you swap to dual wands and play from distance

For mapping I use a simple (not that costly at all) rare dagger with:

% spell damage (40%+ spell damage)
adds lightning damage to spells
crit for spells
crit multi

but since not experienced enough yet you can also check the OP's suggestion for dagger!
Last edited by TheoZ777 on Mar 12, 2018, 9:13:20 PM
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Milaan wrote:
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TheoZ777 wrote:
My build so far is working as a charm... will make some videos too...soon :D I think OP is concentrating in his lightning tendrils alternative, might make a guide of my own which is based on this setup soon


Can you give access to your characters or share a PoB?



here is my profile link you sure nothing there?

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2092216/page/9#p15363466


will make a poe build thing tomorrow and share it



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TheoZ777 wrote:
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Milaan wrote:
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TheoZ777 wrote:
My build so far is working as a charm... will make some videos too...soon :D I think OP is concentrating in his lightning tendrils alternative, might make a guide of my own which is based on this setup soon


Can you give access to your characters or share a PoB?



here is my profile link you sure nothing there?

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2092216/page/9#p15363466


will make a poe build thing tomorrow and share it





Your profile is private.
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What do I put in a 5l soul mantle?
"Bonus points if it is Scion/Witch because they have nice knees. Ranger has ugly knees and other characters are men so playing them would be homoerotic." - CAKE, 10/20/21
sry if its a noob question but i dont understand how u win power charges can anyone explain to me?
hc viable? also can you do well with 5L soul mantle or tabula still better?
Last edited by Tecken1407 on Mar 14, 2018, 1:33:35 AM

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