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Bristoling, Which ascendancy would you suggest first Jugg or Raider?

Also which CWDT Immortal Call gem level would you suggest for Arakali proc?
Last edited by PetuSchokk on Mar 23, 2018, 11:29:03 AM
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PetuSchokk wrote:
Bristoling, Which ascendancy would you suggest first Jugg or Raider?
Sorry for late reply. This is a good question, I think it depends on how fast you are going to get your last labs. You definately don't want to get to maps without picking up Raider, but at the same time Raider isn't that great for levelling since you might not have 100% uptime on the Frenzy charges since it will be hard to run Blood Rage early on.

Personally, I'd still take Raider for the extra damage vs bosses since I know the mechanics well, extra movement speed also helps before we get decent attack speed for Whirling Blades. If during levelling you feel squishy then Jugg will be a better choice.

For Arakaali, I think around 1k hit range should be comfortable, it doesn't really matter in grand scheme of things. Anywhere between 1-10 level should be fine.
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Last edited by Bristoling on Mar 24, 2018, 9:54:10 AM
How do you make this more HC viable? The degen of bloodrage is a bit annoying :(
Last edited by MaWeL83 on Mar 25, 2018, 9:26:12 AM
Degen from Blood Rage can be disabled with weapon swap when you have it socketed in them, just remember to put your auras somewhere else.

If you want to make it more HC viable, run Grace instead of Wrath, maybe go for 2 jewels with Blind on hit instead of just one. Not sure how HC viable would it be, I mean I did level this character from 91 to 93 running just yellow Guardian maps, but keep in mind I had good equipment by that point and Clarity Watcher's.
I do think that Jugg sub ascendancy changes make this build a lot more viable for HC, but its not something I would try - I tend to die several times during leveling on every character I make :D
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Hello , awesome build I love spectral throw!

I'm having an issue that is that my dmg is kinda low to be honest , and my es too , I dont have GG rings and i'm using astramentis , but how can I improove those things ?

https://pastebin.com/EdKvu4eT

p.d: I added the jugg ascendancy even if I don't have it yet and 2 lvls but didn't do that much so my guess is that my problem is my gear or may be the tree!

Make sure to get Cyclopean Coil with 14-15% attributes: this will be over 8% more dps and another 250-300 ES.

Your first claw is pretty decent but the other one has quite low %int, getting a 12% one will give you a bit more dps and ES.

Hybrid projectile damage/attack speed node by Ranger start is pretty great so take it as soon as.

In general, %elemental damage is better then flat damage for this build due to how much Int we end up with. Here's a quick search I came up with: http://poe.trade/search/ewamitetamyari
Most of the rings will be in 50+ chaos range, but sometimes you can get something really really good for something like 5-10 chaos. Like at this moment there is one 8c ring on the market:


Brood Hold Two-Stone Ring 2 weeks ago
Level: 59 ilvl: 78
+14% to Cold and Lightning Resistances
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+43 to Intelligence S2
+29 to maximum Energy Shield P4
+18% to Fire Resistance S6
+28% to Cold Resistance S5
28% increased Elemental Damage with Attack Skills

It also has space for crafted flat lightning damage, this ring would be around 5% more dps with crafted lightning damage, same or slightly higher ES then your current rings and it also has quite a bit of res, it would balance your resistances a lot better then Storm Grip that you are using.

Putting quality on your boots and helmet will also slightly boost your ES.

Doing all this + a few more levels spent on Int/Strength nodes will leave you there: https://pastebin.com/NmSFqSf5
7.2k ES and 242k Shaper dps (vs your current 6.4k ES and 196k dps)
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Last edited by Bristoling on Mar 28, 2018, 4:41:22 PM
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Bristoling wrote:
Make sure to get Cyclopean Coil with 14-15% attributes: this will be over 8% more dps and another 250-300 ES.

Your first claw is pretty decent but the other one has quite low %int, getting a 12% one will give you a bit more dps and ES.

Hybrid projectile damage/attack speed node by Ranger start is pretty great so take it as soon as.

In general, %elemental damage is better then flat damage for this build due to how much Int we end up with. Here's a quick search I came up with: http://poe.trade/search/ewamitetamyari
Most of the rings will be in 50+ chaos range, but sometimes you can get something really really good for something like 5-10 chaos. Like at this moment there is one 8c ring on the market:


Brood Hold Two-Stone Ring 2 weeks ago
Level: 59 ilvl: 78
+14% to Cold and Lightning Resistances
-------------------------------
+43 to Intelligence S2
+29 to maximum Energy Shield P4
+18% to Fire Resistance S6
+28% to Cold Resistance S5
28% increased Elemental Damage with Attack Skills

It also has space for crafted flat lightning damage, this ring would be around 5% more dps with crafted lightning damage, same or slightly higher ES then your current rings and it also has quite a bit of res, it would balance your resistances a lot better then Storm Grip that you are using.

Putting quality on your boots and helmet will also slightly boost your ES.

Doing all this + a few more levels spent on Int/Strength nodes will leave you there: https://pastebin.com/NmSFqSf5
7.2k ES and 242k Shaper dps (vs your current 6.4k ES and 196k dps)



Insane brother , thank you for your attention! I really apreciate it and for sharing the build , thank you im going to work towards those things ! :D
** UPDATE **

Did shaper deathless (yayy) pretty good dmg, managed to upgrade my gear a lot!
Point blank is really op for boss fightning , you definetly want that node.
A howa with culling strike is really really good (i didn't care much about the rolls of the howa I bought I lost just a little bit of dps but I think is worth) and they're also really cheap , I bought mine for only 1 ex.
I managed to get 7.4k es (not min maxed gear :) )


This build has a lot of potential , I didn't try to do uber elder , I managed to kill a yellow elder but it was almost 8 lvls before (actually lvl 90 almost 91) and with wrose gear , I did died 1 or 2 times due that I dont have the experience required to dodge all the elder shit and yeah , not gonna lie the dmg was pretty good.

I really recommend you this build if u played howa in legacy you will def like it , is pretty much the same build :)

Here's my pob

https://pastebin.com/BECfueey


P.D: The projectile travel distance is 22 scince with spectral throw the max distance is 45 , with slower projectiles it has 49% less distance (it says speed but you get the point) so that's why on config the travel distance is 22.

Pretty sure if u are rich u can get better gear , also my amulet I bought it for only 30 c :D
Looks great, a big upgrade from the last pastebin :) Happy to hear you managed to snatch that Brood Hold.

I would still urge you to get Cyclopean Coil since the one you have has the lowest % stat increase :)
PS: if you care about PoB numbers, you can tick Onslaught effect in the config since we will always have it.

Didn't know about the projectile travel distance, I only seen someone estimated somewhere that Point Blank is around 17-18% more dps, so it's not far off.

I think in the near future you might want to be looking for a way to get your lightning resistance to be the highest, since Vinktar lasts only 4 seconds but you get 2 uses of Wise Oak 5 seconds each, if your lightning res without Vinktar isn't the highest then you are losing 6 seconds of Wise Oak time if you are in a fight where you cannot recharge your flasks. Just something to think about :)
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Bristoling wrote:
Looks great, a big upgrade from the last pastebin :) Happy to hear you managed to snatch that Brood Hold.

I would still urge you to get Cyclopean Coil since the one you have has the lowest % stat increase :)
PS: if you care about PoB numbers, you can tick Onslaught effect in the config since we will always have it.

Didn't know about the projectile travel distance, I only seen someone estimated somewhere that Point Blank is around 17-18% more dps, so it's not far off.

I think in the near future you might want to be looking for a way to get your lightning resistance to be the highest, since Vinktar lasts only 4 seconds but you get 2 uses of Wise Oak 5 seconds each, if your lightning res without Vinktar isn't the highest then you are losing 6 seconds of Wise Oak time if you are in a fight where you cannot recharge your flasks. Just something to think about :)


Yes , i've been looking for high es gear but is pretty hard to get , also a helm enchant I might need to do it myself scince no one is caring about es gear D: .
Yes i've been trying to get my max res as lightning but is hard , I was trying to get a two stone with fire lightning but didn't catch any!
I didn't notice that my cyclopean was really low on stats , ill get a better one!

Thanks again =)

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