totem interaction bugged

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Fumina wrote:

The totem count mechanic works as intended.

If you have Siege Commander bow with 3000 Dex and 11 Ballistas and you would place 1 decoy totem, you will desummon these 11 ballistas.

Everytime you summon a totem, the totemskill checks the maximum number count of totems.

In your case your totem interaction is a bit unlocky.

If you use the helmet for your Attack Totems (melee counts aswell), you can start deploying a Spell Totem outside the Helmslot and then add 3 Attack Totems.

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colfirefly wrote:

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Fumina wrote:

The totem count mechanic works as intended.

If you have Siege Commander bow with 3000 Dex and 11 Ballistas and you would place 1 decoy totem, you will desummon these 11 ballistas.

Everytime you summon a totem, the totemskill checks the maximum number count of totems.

In your case your totem interaction is a bit unlocky.

If you use the helmet for your Attack Totems (melee counts aswell), you can start deploying a Spell Totem outside the Helmslot and then add 3 Attack Totems.

This. You need to summon the totems you have more of, last.

Searing Bond will act similarly. That's a good way to understand the interaction quickly and easily.

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LordCeruleus wrote:

The system...
1. Checks each totem individually for how many totems it can have in play
2. finds the totem that can have the most totems and set's that totem's limit as the player's total totem limit.
3. prioritizes the totem with the lowest allowable limit as discussed above
4. if totem limits are tied, the oldest existing totem is always replaced.

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Yana wrote:

While you still disagree, the mechanism is working as intended, only a bit different than the way it was explained to you.
The system...
1. Checks each totem individually for how many totems it can have in play
2. finds the totem that can have the most totems and set's that totem's limit as the player's total totem limit.
3. prioritizes the totem with the lowest allowable limit as discussed above
4. if totem limits are tied, the oldest existing totem is always replaced.
(credits to LordCeruleus)

Now to your situation: Both your total maximum totem count and your individual maximum totem count is 3. If you do not take the hierophant node, your total maximum totem count is STILL 3, but you could not place 3 wither totems, only 2. Here, if you have 3 RATs out and place a wither, only 1 RAT would be replaced, not 2 (as stated in this thread).

BUT if you put your RAT into your helmet with the hierophant node, your maximum wither totem count would be 2 but you could place 4 RATs and thus 4 totems in total (4RAT, 3RAT+1wither, 2RAT+2wither).

So taking the hierophant node with wither in your helmet only enables you to place 3 wither totems instead of 2 wither and 1 RAT. Basically it gives your a bit bigger flexibility, but not more power in general.

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Yana wrote:

4. if totem limits are tied, the oldest existing totem is always replaced.

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The_x_ile wrote:

ok, i think this explanasion is better, but im still not too sure about something:
if i have RAT in my chest and will put another RAT in helm, with heirophent node, will i be able to place the 3 RATS from my chest + wither totem? (will have 4 RATS supposedly)

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silumit wrote:

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Yana wrote:

4. if totem limits are tied, the oldest existing totem is always replaced.

ur sure? my bug report about scion hiero totems couple leagues ago was ignored by ggg, there also was nothing in patchnotes regarding it since then.

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LordCeruleus wrote:

Typically, totems are programmed to prioritize any totem that isn't a searing totem. that means if you have all searing totems and cast a ballista, it replaces the oldest searing totem. if you have all ballista and cast searing totem, it simply adds a searing totem. if you have a mix of totems, however, and cast a ballista, the program will always replace the oldest searing totem up to the maximum number ballista possible. Once the maximum number of ballista have been reached, the program will then replace the oldest ballista if you cast ballista or oldest searing totem if you cast searing totem. You can never replace an active ballista with a searing totem.