Development Manifesto: Energy Shield and Life

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MackBesmirch wrote:

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Astealoth wrote:

I think vaal pact nerf is justified, but I think an extremely draconian ghost reaver nerf would be too much. Vaal pact is completely outrageously powerful, but ghost reaver by itself as is feels pretty middle of the road. I played my ES char this league without VP for several weeks and the absolute insane unlimited power just isn't there. I would like to see build diversity increased, not just totally tipped to the other side. I am coming at this from the perspective of a 4 year life build loyalist who's only made 2 ES builds and played them firmly as alts.

Agree...

I never had the currency or the play time to invest into a top tier ES build. Even after 3 years saving up for a Shav's in standard, I still only have 6k ES... which with the current Ghost Reaver/Vaal Pact is playable.

The 25k CI builds? How many players really actually manage that? I must be missing something or just being far too conservative in my spending/crafting. I have always assumed those top tier ES based builds were only for the top tier players.

I am curious to see if the nerfs actually nerf the top tier builds much at all... comparatively speaking. I mean, yeah, with less overall ES and without the insta-leech of Vaal Pact, gameplay will be different, but I think the best players are still going to dominate.

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americanpie wrote:

i could agree with vp and gr changes. and maybe a small reduction of es here and there but a 33% reduction basically across the board??? why not just buff life a little? this will make ci/ll literally only for the 1% who can afford the best of the best es gear as someone who plays all styles life/ll/ci this is an absolute nuke for the portion of the community who cant afford mirror worthy es gear in every slot

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Rory wrote:

For your benefit:

TLDR:

Now this is a story all about how
ES got nerfed right into the ground
And I'd like to take a minute
Just sit right there
I'll tell you how I made our Int defences totally fair

At the top of the tree, it was nerfed and raised
On niche builds was where it spent most of its days
Not for min-maxin', just trying to be cool
If you didn't like life, CI was your tool
'Til Vaal Pact and GR let it put life to shame
Started making trouble in the metagame
It cakewalked the fights and the team got scared
We said, "You're getting a big rework 'til the meta's repaired."

I ground down the values on all of the gear
Had to buff some base types to keep it all fair
All to nerf what you could get from the best rare
Then I whipped up new life mods
That all armour could share

We dialed down some keystones, giving them all a flaw
We tweaked crafted mods and we added some more
So that's all the changes
But don't you be a hater
You'll try it all out and we'll tweak it in Beta

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Rory wrote:

For your benefit:

TLDR:

Now this is a story all about how
ES got nerfed right into the ground
And I'd like to take a minute
Just sit right there
I'll tell you how I made our Int defences totally fair

At the top of the tree, it was nerfed and raised
On niche builds was where it spent most of its days
Not for min-maxin', just trying to be cool
If you didn't like life, CI was your tool
'Til Vaal Pact and GR let it put life to shame
Started making trouble in the metagame
It cakewalked the fights and the team got scared
We said, "You're getting a big rework 'til the meta's repaired."

I ground down the values on all of the gear
Had to buff some base types to keep it all fair
All to nerf what you could get from the best rare
Then I whipped up new life mods
That all armour could share

We dialed down some keystones, giving them all a flaw
We tweaked crafted mods and we added some more
So that's all the changes
But don't you be a hater
You'll try it all out and we'll tweak it in Beta

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Anooose wrote:

This seems extremely harsh, I'm not sure if nerfing every single aspect of ES and the keystones at once is a good idea. When you see ES builds trivialise content, what you're actually seeing is VAAL PACT trivialising content.