[R.I.P.] life Mjolner done right by Rico - Juggernaut version - R.I.P. thx to "balancing" policy

Thank you for your last reply.

I have one more question.

What is vlade voltex's purpose?

We didnt catch up yesterday JCOH35 we may try today evening. Now regarding Witch/Elementalist - its fun but to me its laking dps a bit. This is why im going a slightly different route. I will try to implement perma RF without the need of the ruby flask (allways positive life regen under RF). RF can be used as a single gem as it grants global 39-41% MORE spell dmg and 20% global increased dmg. I will let you know how it goes after some testing. Gear and tree will be otherwise identical to what JCOH35 have posted with some minor changes to the gems setup.

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lcdgood wrote:

Thank you for your last reply.

I have one more question.

What is vlade voltex's purpose?

It hits. Often with more stacks/casts. Romiras grants power charge on skill cast that hits and is not critical hit. Inyas grant 25% chance on every one of those events that you will gain maximum number of power charges instead of just one power charge.

I can't quite figure out why the Devoto's is considered BiS, is it just the fat attack speed? I had considered using a Black Sun Crest, at least temporarily, to online Mjolner earlier than I would normally be able to. I don't see anything, mechanically, that would make the build nonfunctional because of that, unless that 15-20% AS is enough to somehow break the charge generation, but I suspect that is not the case? Or even looking at getting something like a Shaper inc. AoE helmet or power charge helm?

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romeo_zulu wrote:

I can't quite figure out why the Devoto's is considered BiS, is it just the fat attack speed? I had considered using a Black Sun Crest, at least temporarily, to online Mjolner earlier than I would normally be able to. I don't see anything, mechanically, that would make the build nonfunctional because of that, unless that 15-20% AS is enough to somehow break the charge generation, but I suspect that is not the case? Or even looking at getting something like a Shaper inc. AoE helmet or power charge helm?

Not only attack speed. Isnt this obvious? Its a cyclone based build - it also needs tons of movement seed to feel "right". Devotos is like haste aura but it also grants you much needed DEX (saves 2 passive points in tree) and much needed chaos resistance. Enchanted with 40% discharge dmg it is BIS helmet for this build.

Ya idk Rico, I think its just hard to compare ours atm b/c of the gear, im running 6 seperate jewels all with double spell damage and attack speed and have the additional 35% spell damage on my off ring and my golems are lv26 so my buffs are also substantially higher.

I absolutely melt everything compared to what i was doing on my 97 juggernaut. Eventually when we are both on youll have to try out my stuff and then itll be easier to judge.

Its basically 28% spell damage x6 plus another 35% spell damage then 20% penetration b/c my resists are all balanced and I run a legacy 20% pen. Wise Oaks on bosses.

@JCOH35

I did some comparisions in PoB today. I adjusted your Witch to lvl 92 as this is the lvl where more-or-less build is complete. I also included Arcane Surge on-switch buff into your build as its easy 40sec MORE dps buff. Regarding golems I added artificial points to the passive tree to simulated golems buffs that are missing in PoB calculation.

This is current you at lvl 92 with added Surge buff vs Shaper with Wise Oak flask active, elemental weakness, golems buffs, 75% increased dmg from Pendulum, 40% increased dmg from Paragon:


JCOH35 current Witch build stats vs Shaper:




And this is you with Intuitive Leap tree version with buffs same as above:

JCOH35 Intuitive leap tree (saves 5 passive points):



You dont loose DPS by dropping that sweet jewel (Amplify cluster manages that) but at the same time you gain +200 life, +20 str and some AoE for both Discharge and Cyclone. Imo it is worth it at a cost of 6% attack speed. We dont have to be obsessed with that 4.5+ cyclone aps. 5 Discharges per sec vs 5 discharges per 1.1 sec. Its not that big of a deal.


Now this is what Im aiming for with this perma RF Witch/Elementalist idea: lvl 92 char, crapp jewels, my gear, gems mostly 20/20 and 21/20 Discharge, Wise Oak flask active, elemental weakness, golems buffs, 75% increased dmg from Pendulum, 40% increased dmg from Paragon and no Shaper ring:



+25k DMG per Discharge and +200 life compared to no RF build version, slightly less cyclone aps (4.25 vs 4.35). But I would gladly take that. In terms of life regen, well 40 vs 500 but... vs hard content we can turn off RF and have still same DPS output as with no RF version and insane life regen. We can also pop Ruby flask vs boss and grind up to 350-400 life regen while under RF. Imo this sounds good. +25k per Discharge is serious stuff. And theres added 15k dps from RF itself, so in total we gain 115 - 140k Shaper DPS.

What you think, what you guys think?

Rico, I dont understand one detail in your guide: 4th ascendancy perk is Unbreakable or Unrelenting? In calc it is Unrelenting, but in guide it is Unbreakable.

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romeo_zulu wrote:

I can't quite figure out why the Devoto's is considered BiS, is it just the fat attack speed? I had considered using a Black Sun Crest, at least temporarily, to online Mjolner earlier than I would normally be able to. I don't see anything, mechanically, that would make the build nonfunctional because of that, unless that 15-20% AS is enough to somehow break the charge generation, but I suspect that is not the case? Or even looking at getting something like a Shaper inc. AoE helmet or power charge helm?

You can try others, I personally tried really hard to get used to a Scold's Bridle with a perfect 100 spell damage roll but its like running underwater, on a cyclone build you really need that MS, even running an w/o my Devotos it was just too painfull mapping. Then when you factor in 25 chaos resist and the attack speed its hard to pass up.

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fudon wrote:

Rico, I dont understand one detail in your guide: 4th ascendancy perk is Unbreakable or Unrelenting? In calc it is Unrelenting, but in guide it is Unbreakable.

Yeah thats because they changed Ascendancy names from 3.1 to 3.2, its Unbreakable. I will reread the guide to correct that.