Donald Trump and US politics
" Well, no one said it absolutely must be in either of these extremes. Yep, extremes are typically bad. You have to be realistic about these things.
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" 1. some right wing guy like you, with sympathies for either ISIS or Nazis. Not representative anyhow. At least that was my first guess. When I follow the news, police seems to have tried to seperate some people who were fighting or having an argument. So maybe some usual idiots. We´ll see. BTW my father´s name is Hans and Hasan is the name of one of my former colleagues in Bavaria. I don´t think it was either of them. 2. Venezuela is as much a good example as North Korea or the Soviet Union. I know you think there can only be extremes and authoritarian politics. The public service broadcasters as well as the private companies report on that. You seem to know nothing about my country. Last edited by Schmodderhengst#7293 on Jun 13, 2017, 7:49:33 AM
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" Venezuela was doing just fine, until the reds got into power. What happened there could be easily called transition into "democratic socialism" (they caleld it "third way" between socialism and capitalism), not some extreme central planing revolution. ~20 years of "democratic socialism" and you end up hunting pigeons & stray dogs. Compared to the worst of the worst of "capitalism", which would probably be USA. I wont even ask where would people rather be poor, in Venezuela or USA. When night falls
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" Venezuela doesn't even come close to SU or NK. Venezuela is your typical soft transition into leftist populism and socialism, not some extreme communist example. It just so happens that socialism is an ineffective and inherently corrupt system that always robs the same people it claims to help. When night falls
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" I´m talking about the human rights situation. And maybe it´s more comparable to current nationalist Russia, that´s probably a better comparison, esp. when it comes to police violence. |
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" Neither. Definitely Finland. https://www.theguardian.com/housing-network/2017/mar/22/finland-solved-homelessness-eu-crisis-housing-first In the end cheaper for the state than managing homelessness. Last edited by Schmodderhengst#7293 on Jun 13, 2017, 8:02:28 AM
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" No, you were talking about economy and complaining about Trump and capitalism. " If you had to choose between the two, you'd pick USA, like everyone else. Social housing is something that exists everywhere, in USA too. And comparing tiny scandinavian populations (5 mio finns scattered in small towns) with heavily urbanized 300 mio US population, is apples and oranges. When night falls
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" https://tradingeconomics.com/finland/urban-population-wb-data.html How good you ignore the tiny difference in land mass here as well. It´s a matter of political and moral will to say: Let´s not have homeless people except those who choose to live that way. This can be done in any country that already has enough money for police, security, a social system and a military. Yeah, but why not give it to some 500 billionaires in the U.S. and some more elsewhere... Last edited by Schmodderhengst#7293 on Jun 13, 2017, 8:50:00 AM
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" Yes, just like that, you don your moral superiority cap, get some free money and no more homeless people. /s It's not about land mass, but urbanization. Finland is a village compared to US. Whatever worked to allegedly fix homelesness in the small Finish towns, would not work in US metropolises. And speaking about housing, the socialist poster child Sweden (another tiny village country, compared to US), has a major housing problem: Sweden’s housing crisis hits tech start-ups and migrants. They seem to not be aware of magic socialist tricks on how to solve everything... " And which country is that? Not the US. Have you looked at their national debt? There is not enough money to keep up with the current expenses, let alone throwing "free money" at new projects. When night falls She cloaks the world In impenetrable darkness Last edited by morbo#1824 on Jun 13, 2017, 9:12:51 AM
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" Then why is Trump spending money on protection of his new york property when he could be living in the white house? Hes a leech of the government and he is the government at the same time. |
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