[2.3] IMMORTAL-END OF ALL-JAGGER-CoC/Mjolnir Discharge(Expensive/OP/Perm IC/Best Build?)

Thing is I wonder how far this build can go in Prophecy w/o Voll's. It will be a long while for most people to farm or trade for the Voll's, so gotta put something together that can still function well beforehand :).

I fail to see what Kingsguard + Juggernaut provides that Voll's Protector-Builds don't already do better.

You have worse damage, your build don't work at all the way you act like it does, but I'm sure a Marauder-based skill tree is possible.
Even if you fixed your skilltree the damage would be inferior.
You EHP is worse, your healing is A LOT worse.
The Unrelenting ascendancy that gives you up to maximum Endurance Charges does basically nothing, when you do could the same with Voll's Devotion paired with the same number of Power Charges.

Sure the new Juggernaut is strong, but mechanics does not work the way you say they do.
If you where to utilize it, scale damage from the accuracy or something and capitalize on not being locked into a Vagan-dagger.
Juggernaut does not get strong simply because you equip a Voll's Devotion on him.

Yea he does - Voll's right now equals to winning the game.

Protector is a garbage armour - terrible defences / problems with mana - doesnt help with systain at all.

Kingsguard allows you to sustain from 800-8000 life per second depending on attack speed.

I really will avoid your pointless replies (gotta use this block plugin) ive played almost every OP build in the game in past 3 years. If someone doesn't understand the mechanics it is you... Please read some threads about old and new endurance charge dischargers and stop spewing crap.

Trickster - Protector combo was an utter shit before you got Voll's, but it was cheap. Still was way slower than any chaos build and LA.
Now "when" you have Voll's there is no point to even play trickster. Mara is the way to go, everything increases from dps to survivability.

If you want to play luckster version with Voll's who cares - do so, but shitting on Mara when every good player sees its the way to go is just making a fool of yourself (Havoc, Karv, Drake...) like hell you know this game better than best players in PoE...

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lordaleksander wrote:

I fail to see what Kingsguard + Juggernaut provides that Voll's Protector-Builds don't already do better.

You have worse damage, your build don't work at all the way you act like it does, but I'm sure a Marauder-based skill tree is possible.
Even if you fixed your skilltree the damage would be inferior.
You EHP is worse, your healing is A LOT worse.
The Unrelenting ascendancy that gives you up to maximum Endurance Charges does basically nothing, when you do could the same with Voll's Devotion paired with the same number of Power Charges.

Sure the new Juggernaut is strong, but mechanics does not work the way you say they do.
If you where to utilize it, scale damage from the accuracy or something and capitalize on not being locked into a Vagan-dagger.
Juggernaut does not get strong simply because you equip a Voll's Devotion on him.

^ He is right.

Juggernaut is not the best coc discharger just because "gain max end charges".
Kingsguard is worse than Voll's Protector. 800 life/ discharge is nothing compared to leech.

CoC is not the way to go with Juggernaut.
As edited in OP and stated in some other comments:
Mjölner + Romira's + Voll's + Kingsguard is the way to go.

1 PC from Romira's -> 10 Endurance Charges -> dual (or even triple) discharge -> 2k-3k Life Healing per proc

Which is probably like 10k/sec on single target.
It's kind of expensive, agreed, but will be OP as fuck. I am totally going for it!

Mjolnir juggernaut will be OP as heck, no doubt about that.

But as everybody has pointed out already, CoC Jugg is a dumb idea, especially without voll's protector. The start location is just too bad.

Survivability will obviously be better with new maximum endurance charges however I highly doubt it will be overpowered especially because elemental damage is the biggest problem life-based builds face. CoC Discharge is better in every way. More EHP, more damage, faster clear speed, more leech it's just straightout better in every way and you can also start a league with it unlike Mjölner.

Not to forget CoC Discharge's high ES pool makes it way more resistant to one-shots.

What do you think about this build in 2.4?

This build seems to be no longer OP as it should be I guess...

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ElMopso wrote:

What do you think about this build in 2.4?

Well if you insist on resurrecting the dead - Mjolnoob is still very strong, not as retardedly strong as it was before but still probably one of the strongest builds out there.

But i would rather pick BV now :P