Currency Parser - Path of Exile Toolkit - poetoolkit.com

Not that it really matters, but OP only made this site because I wouldn't give him access to the poeex source code.

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This tool does not have the intention or ambition to impose you to use 'standard' exchange rates, or to try to 'fix' the economy


LOL right...
Last edited by meatmeatmeatmeat#4124 on Mar 11, 2013, 11:01:52 PM
True, and quite a shame, I'd have preferred to work together...

What's so funny about that quote, though ?
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Last edited by BlackDeathBE#0559 on Mar 12, 2013, 4:43:43 AM
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Reading your posts, you haven't made any point other than that it's easier for new players. In fact it all it does is give new players a false view of currency in this game. Players in higher level maps will require currency based on their gear state and drops and thus their evaluation of what they wish to purchase is going to be skewed in that way, just as the barter economy is designed. As such, they will value getting a certain currency for crafting over another, despite any silliness from charts or conversions on websites.

What you propose only serves to give a blueprint for noobs trading with noobs. Higher level players will refuse to trade at the values they feel are wrong and take advantage of the values that they feel advantaged for their uses. And new players will happily oblige given these charts. Instead, if they were just forced to learn themselves, they would easily see how useful orbs are to them and their own character.

To those who would think that it serves high level players to remove these sites, think again. Anyone who would look online would easily figure out the relative value of currency anyways. There will always be people taking advantage of people who play blindly without taking to the internet to find values. What ends up hurting new players from these sites the most is the hoarding of currency for no reason rather than using it to craft. The main reason for this in my opinion is that there is no real absolute value to the orbs other than the vendor ratios. For instance, can you make an exalted orb or gcp via vendors? Nope. What is the real utility of a gcp to a lvl 30 player when clearly alchemy orbs to upgrade gear they find would be infinitely better to him at that stage. But because of such sites, they hold their gcp and lose time and exp to the hoarding of the currency. Really, this player has lost utility of his inventory and value in his gameplay due to this flawed concept sites such as yours perpetuates.

But of course, it's easier to use these sites. I'm sure the trade economy would really simple if all gear was worth 1 alchemy and all orbs = 1 alchemy. But then again, do you really ever think simpler or easier is better?
Why should you only trade your items for orbs which you currently need now ? How terribly dumb would it be to sell something that people would gladly offer an exalted orb for, for an alchemy, just because I need an alchemy orb now - since lots of players would gladly trade said exalted orb for, on average, 30 alchemy orbs ?

And what if you want to 'purchase' an item right now, but you - obviously - don't have the exact item that the person selling it (if anyone even is, at the moment you need it) is looking for, while the person selling it will gladly accept some useful (= highly valued) orbs ? That's exactly where common currency comes in.

Value of an orb = drop rate * average usefulness.

Average usefulness is defined by how high 'wealthy' players value the items. Drop rate is obviously defined (and might even be tweaked during the course of the game) by GGG.

As I already said in a previous post: sure, over time the value of orbs will shift. It's obvious GCP's will devaluate and chisels will increase in value, but that's a rather slow process, and to be honest, I haven't seen even those 'good/pro players' you speak of use currency rates which deviate much (if at all, actually) from the ones on poeex or my site. Wouldn't that mean they're pretty accurate, overall ? And sure, some players refuse to sell their items for currency and only trade them for something else, but the odds of someone who needs just your item offering the item you need, are pretty slim - and they probably won't be "valued" precisely equally (meaning, one item will be considered slightly better), so one of the sides would presumably have to add some currency items - so there we go again.

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To those who would think that it serves high level players to remove these sites, think again. Anyone who would look online would easily figure out the relative value of currency anyways

Here you say it yourself, btw: orbs have relative values.

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But of course, it's easier to use these sites. I'm sure the trade economy would really simple if all gear was worth 1 alchemy and all orbs = 1 alchemy. But then again, do you really ever think simpler or easier is better?

I really don't understand what you mean by this.
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dolpiff wrote:
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Jim_Fear wrote:
These sort of tools will never last in a dynamic economy. Every time I see one of these, I die a little inside. They totally take out the "bartering" aspect of the game and replace it with dollars and cents.



this is why we cant have nice things

to the OP - clearly the community doesnt deserve your efforts




I'm a new player, and haven't finished the first difficulty yet. However, I applaud and appreciate your efforts, regardless of how useful it may be in the endgame. I also don't get the guy pointing out that the only reason you made your site is because you couldn't get his source code. I come from a heavy background in the free/Open source communities (I'm a professional *nix admin, and am in fact running this game on Linux using wine,) and you making a new project because the existing products weren't what you needed, and you couldn't modify them is definitely not a mark against you. It sounds more like whining than a legitimate complaint against your efforts.

TLDR; thank you for this great tool.
currency rate still update since last reply ?

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