Why do people always think God = religion?

Pretty hard to talk about Christians in general outside of core dogmas. I even know for sure that some Protestants in France are Unitarians (they don't believe in Trinity, or One God as one substance in three hypostases) and are still acknowledged as Protestants. From a more subjective point of view I as West-European Roman Catholic feel nowhere near Born Again Pentecostal Christians from oversea or Orthodox Churches from the East, for doctrinal but also cultural reasons of course.

On OP's topic : it's also good to notice that criticsm of religion have been offered by people highly involved in religious and theologic activities. The most powerful Christian example of this is probably Karl Barth, a Swiss Reformed theologian and pastor. In short he wanted to emphasized the sovereignity of God and (in line with the great philosopher Søren Kierkegaard) the infinite qualitative distinction between God and man. On that regard religion was of course a target of choice since it claims to be the premium medium between God and men (especially for Catholics against Protestants). That leitmotiv pushed him to bring some caustic statements on the table (for those of you that are a bit in philosophy and philosophy of religion, statements like "The Analogia Entis is an invention of Antichrist" or the Incarnation is God touching the world only "as a tangent").
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Even if the books did happen to be static, religion isn't limited to what's written in it, it's also dictated a lot by its leaders.


As an ex catholic, I had a fairly progressive education anyway, so I lived that, :P
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There's a lot of bias within that meme:
+ You will find every current result where there is sentient life marvelous. Yet you can only observe the result if you are part of that sentient life.
+ You will tend to not pay attention to any result that doesn't correspond to what you are looking for (life), but not to others, just like you pay a lot of attention to the roll 6-6-6-6-6-6 on 6D6, but not to 3-6-2-2-1-4, even though they are equally improbable. We have a few examples near us of "failed" results.
+ Randomness easily leads to statistics. It is not surprising to see within billions of billions of planets that at least one happened to harbor life.


Now if you want some topic that is really weird for an atheist, there's subjectivity. Now THAT is something that atheists will find hard to explain.
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There's a lot of bias within that meme:

+ You will tend to not pay attention to any result that doesn't correspond to what you are looking for (life), but not to others, just like you pay a lot of attention to the roll 6-6-6-6-6-6 on 6D6, but not to 3-6-2-2-1-4, even though they are equally improbable.


While rolling a single six sided die and getting 6 then rolling it again and getting 6 then then rolling it again and getting 6 in exact order, or getting 3 then 6 and 2 from the same process are equally probable - Rolling a six sided dice twice and then having the dice roll all by itself and consistently generate sixes (a few fives here and there) is a completely different problem.

There may very well be rational explanation for the process at some point in the future, but the "we are here, so it must have happened" has no more validity than the stack of turtles. I'd prefer if scientists would just say "We don't have any answers for X, YET, but we are trying to figure it out."

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Xavderion wrote:
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There's a lot of bias within that meme:

+ You will tend to not pay attention to any result that doesn't correspond to what you are looking for (life), but not to others, just like you pay a lot of attention to the roll 6-6-6-6-6-6 on 6D6, but not to 3-6-2-2-1-4, even though they are equally improbable.


While rolling a single six sided die and getting 6 then rolling it again and getting 6 then then rolling it again and getting 6 in exact order, or getting 3 then 6 and 2 from the same process are equally probable - Rolling a six sided dice twice and then having the dice roll all by itself and consistently generate sixes (a few fives here and there) is a completely different problem.

There may very well be rational explanation for the process at some point in the future, but the "we are here, so it must have happened" has no more validity than the stack of turtles. I'd prefer if scientists would just say "We don't have any answers for X, YET, but we are trying to figure it out."



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DalaiLama wrote:
While rolling a single six sided die and getting 6 then rolling it again and getting 6 then then rolling it again and getting 6 in exact order, or getting 3 then 6 and 2 from the same process are equally probable - Rolling a six sided dice twice and then having the dice roll all by itself and consistently generate sixes (a few fives here and there) is a completely different problem.


Have you ever studied polymerization? Because that's exactly what happens with that specific process.
When you start studying chemistry, you see that self-sustaining life appearing by "pure chance" makes a lot of sense. At least as much as an anthropocentric superior will that decided we had to exist.
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Have you ever studied polymerization? Because that's exactly what happens with that specific process.
When you start studying chemistry, you see that self-sustaining life appearing by "pure chance" makes a lot of sense. At least as much as an anthropocentric superior will that decided we had to exist.


Did you mean the spontaneous emergence of lipid bilayers instead of polymerization?
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