Why do people always think God = religion?

And furthermore that anyone who talks to God is crazy just because they don't have physical proof of a spiritual Being?

I normally avoid conversations like this, but I'd like to understand where people are coming from.

I'm also wondering why people always jump to hate anyone who even mentions the name of God or The Holy Ghost, etc etc, rather than try to understand where they are coming from?

Also, this really shouldn't be a discussion about religion, as God is not one, but rather about a Person and why so many people have such strong pre-defined judgments towards this Person without ever even knowing Him.

I want to understand.

Disclaimer; please do not hate me for asking questions, as the purpose in making this thread is to understand why others in the past have chosen to hate me based on many assumptions. I would think it'd make sense that if God really wasn't real or if someone actually did think I was crazy they could be the "bigger person" and choose not to hate me and instead at least be nice when reacting to things I say or do. From experience it seems people can be tolerant with any other topic, even vulgar ones or racism, but when it comes to God it's like you flipped their hate switch and they cannot control themselves anymore.

Again I just want to understand...

Which god are you referring to?

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Which god are you referring to?

The only One associated with the Holy Ghost. (Or otherwise the Holy Ghost)

Is that the one in the Qu'ran, Talmud (awkwardly not the Torah though), or the Christian Bible?

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Is that the one in the Qu'ran, Talmud (awkwardly not the Torah though), or the Christian Bible?

I'm referring to the One in the KJV Bible, which yes, is usually used by Christians, however I am not a Christian.

Well that clears up any confusion I had.

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Is that the one in the Qu'ran, Talmud (awkwardly not the Torah though), or the Christian Bible?

Those are, collectively, the God of Abraham.

As for why people hate on those who express religious faith, particularly of the Christian variety, this is my observation:

It is fashionable to assume a mantle of intellectual superiority over "superstitious" people who believe in the "Big Sky Daddy." I know this, because I used to be in the snotty, Militant Atheist camp, until I realized how immature and unproductive that point of view was. You read comments on videos and threads, even hear the teamspeak chat on PoE gameplay vids, and it's full of hateful derision toward people of faith.

The sad thing is, as an agnostic (since I cannot disprove the existence of God, any more than anyone can prove to me that He exists), I would much rather share the company of a sincere Christian than those followers of the New Faith of No Faith. A sincere Christian hates no one (not even Gays). He knows it is his duty to love his fellow man as himself, and he follows the Word of God (as he sees it) not out of fear of punishment for any failure to do so, but because he loves God.

Meanwhile, the "intellectuals" who sneer and snigger conveniently forget the other tenets of their latter-day social construct, which is supposed to include a respect for diversity. That should include respect for the cultural beliefs of others, even if their beliefs are boring, old, repressive Christianity, and not something more exotic like Islam, which still gets all kinds of passes for its prescribed excesses.

Yes, there are plenty of obnoxious Christians, who, given slightly different circumstances, could as easily be in the MA camp, since their beliefs are more a form of tribalism akin to that of those who mock them for their beliefs. "Holier-Than-Thou" is a very real attitude, but both camps suffer from it, in varying degrees.

Remember: A sincere Christian loves you and wants what they think God wants for you. An honest non-believer acknowledges that, however unlikely it seems on the face of it, the existence of God cannot be disproven, and allows for the fact that, for many, Christianity is the moral culture which shapes their lives and gives them comfort and community, whether God is there, or not.

Everyone else in either camp is just a tribal troll, seeking a false sense of moral or intellectual superiority. ='[.]'=

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Raycheetah wrote:

Everyone else in either camp is just a tribal troll, seeking a false sense of moral or intellectual superiority. ='[.]'=

Little bit of a mean generalisation there, Ray. Some people don't get a lot of choice in the beliefs they are allowed to have, either through family or culture - or sometimes even peer groups.

Anyways - what makes a Christian, or a Jew, or a Muslim more sincere than another? For the most part, they are required by their particular faith/denomination to believe a specific set of things. Depending on circumstances, those things may be ones that you (or I, or Vibe) disagree with. Does your judgement that those beliefs are wrong make them insincere?

I quite like Vibe's idea. He is choosing to believe and put his faith in his God without the annoying need to subscribe to a whole bunch of other things that may go along with it.

It's a little confusing for others, sure, but I don't envisage a lot of situations where you'd have to explain it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzj7Wg4DAbs&feature=youtu.be
This video talks about how our society is based on fictional constructs.
I dont think he went far enough with it, though. I see 2 distinct forms of intelligence; 1 based on objective reality, and the other based on influencing other entities though the fictional constructs of man.
Influence itself is neither good nor bad, like all tools, it is how they are used and for what purposes.
Personally though, i really do see the engineers and scientists as being on a higher level. No amount of influence will advance mankind. But on the otherside of the token, in modern society it's not enough to JUST have skills dealing with objective reality. You must be 'allowed' to produce. You must have the resources to construct. And you must have the advertising to distribute. All of which require a tightrope walk on the threads of man-made fictional constructs.