Why are bows so expensive?

I have been wondering why bows are so expensive? if you look for similiar rolls for other 2h weapons bows seems to be like 2-4 times more expensive. other thing to mention is that there is like 4x amount of +10 exalted phy bows for sale in warbands than all of other 2h phy weapons.
Are people asking huge sums for bows without any good reason?
Are you sure you are looking at similar stats since bows max dps is about 300 lower than 2h weapons. Also people play more bow builds probably.
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Last edited by kaarelo on Sep 3, 2015, 10:39:53 AM
Because with a high dps/crit bow and a proper ranger tree, you clear endgame maps in minutes. One-two shots and the entire screen is dead. In terms of clear speed, a level 80+ crit bow ranger is simply amazing. Of course bows will be expensive.
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Last edited by Bars on Sep 3, 2015, 10:50:25 AM
You're comparing apples and oranges here.

Just look at the white base items.

Harbinger Bow:
35-91 damage, 1.2 aps

Vaal Axe
79-131 damage, 1.2 aps

You need way better affixes on a Harbinger to get 400 DpS than on a Vaal Axe.
So of course the Axe will be cheaper.
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Bars wrote:
Because with a high dps/crit bow and a proper ranger tree, you clear endgame maps in minutes. One-two shots and the entire screen is dead. In terms of clear speed, a level 80+ crit bow ranger is simply amazing. Of course bows will be expensive.


Compared to spin to win builds crit bow builds require a lot more good items and are very squishy.
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Last edited by maxor on Sep 3, 2015, 11:03:22 AM
So bows do sell for that kind of currency? So crafting anything else than bow is idiotic if you dont want to craft something that cannot be bought or having self crafted weapon is something you fancy.
Return of investment is like 5 times higher in bows than rest of weapons. ofc in mirror tier weapons this prob wont work but from 2-50 exalts weapons there seems to be pretty clear correlation. This is in warbands.
Have to check trackpete's data about builds usage. im pretty sure that Two hand axes are most used phys weapon in warband but there is disfavour that is dropping prices of axes in high tier.
Oh im talking about rolls in items them self. Like price of t1 flat+t1 % phys bow versus 2h mace with similiar rolls. Just to make it clear..
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maxor wrote:
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Bars wrote:
Because with a high dps/crit bow and a proper ranger tree, you clear endgame maps in minutes. One-two shots and the entire screen is dead. In terms of clear speed, a level 80+ crit bow ranger is simply amazing. Of course bows will be expensive.


Compared to spin to win builds crit bow builds require a lot more good items and are very squishy.


We're discussing this from a SC perspective. HC is an entirely different story.

And, by the way, you could make a pretty tough TS crit bow ranger with acro/phase acro and kaom's heart.
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kaarelo wrote:
Are you sure you are looking at similar stats since bows max dps is about 300 lower than 2h weapons. Also people play more bow builds probably.




ya, another thing is crit. Crit 2h is not a big meta. A fair comparison would be to compare crit bows with crit daggers, and be sure to be comparing harbingers that have a crit chance roll with platinum kriss that have 1.4+ aps, imperial skean and ambusher daggers that also have local crit chance rolls and similar physical damage stats.

Every time you add another needed stat or have a good base item an item goes way up in value. Presuming the rolls are good % phys on its own is vendor trash, % phys with flat phys sells, % phys with flat phys and attack speed is worth a fair bit and then % phys flat phys attack speed and crit chance on a best in slot crit base item that people use for crit builds is worth an absolute ton. Thats where really good bows are sitting, where as good 2h axes are just double phys and attack speed, thats it, 3 prop weapon and ur good to go. When you start looking at double or triple phys + speed + crit chance + crit multi and theyre all super rolls on a bis base item that a lot of builds use thats when youre moving into the 50 exalt+ territory up to items that you can either mirror or buy for many mirrors worth of ex.


You have to be careful when looking at t1% etc too, t1% on a mace, well what sort of mace is it? If youre looking at a dread maul its probably vendor trash even with t1, mauls in general are pretty shit tbh. How much is t1%, t1 flat and high crit chance on an Exquisite Blade vs a Harbinger, thats maybe a more fair comparison. You cant ignore the end result dps of the weapon too, and take into account that bows are more like 1h weapons dps wise, because you can have insane phys rolls on a lvl51 base item and the resulting dps is beaten by meh rolls on a higher base. Axes are way more popular than maces, but you got to know what the high bases people want are like Vaal Axes, and then you run into Atziris Disfavour that is an insane axe where you need a rare Vaal Axe to go significantly beyond 600 pdps to be worth more than a Disfavour, and that caps the price of anything of similar pdps or lower because its a unqiue with a somewhat consistent supply in a softcore league. Theres no physical crit bow unique that caps the price of harbingers below a certain dps.

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