Prepare for minion nerf?

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xXSaithXx wrote:

can i ask what level ur friend is because full summoner kill speed is normaly super slow compared to other builds

That's maybe because of this fact that I'm wrong and that summonwhoring won't be nerfed.

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cocomoloco wrote:

In my oppinion before they nerf builds like minions they should buff the unviable ones first, i.e. CI (they should give it some ES bonus back, like 20%), pure lightning witch (i.e. buff Arc) and so on.

Agree with you, you are forgeting the Blood magic, i rushed it... at level 20 i was a bloodwitch, thinkin on the mana cost will be reduced, but nothing happened... Ok to be honest all the Mana nodes is the great thing, i didn't even touch them, since the beginning. I knew my mage will be like that it was the first think i thought when i started to play...
But Bloodmage node is underpowered...
PROs-
·No mana dependant
·Constantly cast
·Full HP flasks
·We can call a bloodmage like some kind of "tank" i you wish, lots of HP, it supposed to have ES too, at this time my mage has 900hp + 650es (with discipline)
CONs-
·In shiny maps you have to pay so much attention to your hp, if you don't you are dead
·High costs of "mana" at higher levels
·Useless percentages based auras

At least i got my 3spectres (always on ranged mobs) and 8 zombs, plus a skelletons totem to have 11skelles right where i need them

This is my build at lvl 50 if you wanna look:
Necro-Blood mage

you can have same killspeed as other classes but for that u have to ditch those shitty arc and totem builds and spec a full area nodes detonate dead 1 dead mob = all dead

but keep playing those so called op spectre builds lol

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cocomoloco wrote:

In my oppinion before they nerf builds like minions they should buff the unviable ones first, i.e. CI (they should give it some ES bonus back, like 20%), pure lightning witch (i.e. buff Arc) and so on.

CI buffed? People running around with 10k ES shields already at 85 and its only gonna get better.

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ventiman wrote:

you can have same killspeed as other classes but for that u have to ditch those shitty arc and totem builds and spec a full area nodes detonate dead 1 dead mob = all dead

but keep playing those so called op spectre builds lol

wasn't detonate dead clearly under powered from what i remember? It only does 15% of max life how does that one shot things?

DPS for me is 4 6-linked tentacle miscreations. Lets clock that dps compared to another class.

He's level 64. His killspeed is fine because he just walks across the map, re-summoning minions when they explode. They are more useful in death then life.

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ventiman wrote:

u have to ditch those shitty arc and totem builds

You never tried fast casting+minion damage supported 15 skeletons totem : its pure awesomeness.
By the time you spawned them manually I will be looting :D

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mattc3303 wrote:

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ventiman wrote:

you can have same killspeed as other classes but for that u have to ditch those shitty arc and totem builds and spec a full area nodes detonate dead 1 dead mob = all dead

but keep playing those so called op spectre builds lol

wasn't detonate dead clearly under powered from what i remember? It only does 15% of max life how does that one shot things?

DPS for me is 4 6-linked tentacle miscreations. Lets clock that dps compared to another class.

firenodes elemental nodes and culling strike all synergize with the 18% life dmg + a 20% detonate alone has 60% castspeed

the fact that you dont have to lvl the gem for the pity physical dmg makes it more awesome you have a 5 support active skill which doesnt cost more than 35-40 mana and bombs and ignites the whole screen

pay a visit to the detonate dead skillgem feedback to get some ideas

Well lets just do this right. Weekly lets take a look at the ladder. Top 10 builds get nerfed. Hows that. Just nerf everyone down to perma lvl 20.

Honestly I really fail to grasp why anything that works must be nerfed. If its too easy for ya play a harder char. Duelist comes to mind. Im sure some soul will chime in that the Duelist is way to faceroll. oh well

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sunseeker3000 wrote:

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Eps1on wrote:

i got summoner and i would like to see your build link ? :) thanks!

summuner lvl 66

Nothing fancy, I learned from blacksheepnz post "lord of the dead"
Using dicipline (Or purity depending), clarity and Wrath.
Got about 150 mana not reserved, enough to pump out any minion I need and to spam Arc.

I use unique boots and Amulet, still looking for the wand or sword.

About being quiet about it, it's not relevant, I dont think GGG relies on forum to tweak the balance of their (great) game.

Thanks!!! :)