Why streamers can do what they do?

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TheExile777 wrote:

Answering most questions: who watches streams?!? If you can play yourself.
(I would say new players only)

I watch the last hour of etups run. Not because I cared only to see what kinda maps he was getting and maybe I was doing something wrong. Sure enough mostly ran 76-78 just like me with fucked up map drops currently.

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Aim_Deep wrote:

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TheExile777 wrote:

Answering most questions: who watches streams?!? If you can play yourself.
(I would say new players only)

I watch the last hour of etups run. Not because I cared only to see what kinda maps he was getting and maybe I was doing something wrong. Sure enough mostly ran 76-78 just like me with fucked up map drops currently.

Yeah, u dont have fanboys.. That only what u make wrong. GGG = Grinding games gear... Name tell u everything, u need to grind and grind to get all what u need. Or trade and buy. But here come that part where streamers dont do that, they get all benefirs from fanboys. In normal play thats cool, dont care.. But if there is that competitions what need good gear, like kill malachai in merciless (hc) ... No one see mine point here?

I think GGG can easily fix that - it's as easy as add solo self-found tag to the current ladder and allow simple filtering by this tag. :-)

In all the hours I watched Etup and Havoc while I was playing warbands I must have missed the part where people were showering them in free maps. To me it looked like they played the game just like I do except they did it in a more efficient manner with a better group of people to run maps with.

People need to stop making shit up. Top guys on ladder are top because they are better at the game and put in more work than everyone else. I watched those guys run 74 maps for hours when they were lvl 95+.

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Dethklok wrote:

In all the hours I watched Etup and Havoc while I was playing warbands I must have missed the part where people were showering them in free maps. To me it looked like they played the game just like I do except they did it in a more efficient manner with a better group of people to run maps with.

People need to stop making shit up. Top guys on ladder are top because they are better at the game and put in more work than everyone else. I watched those guys run 74 maps for hours when they were lvl 95+.

Ofc they dont take nothing on stream, are u sick? I was ladder 26 on alive in last 1month/Hc after burning race.. 95lvl.. Solo, most of time grinding shitty maps and hoping bigger maps.. I know how much u need to play to get that level in month.. But mine point isnt that leveling, its that competitions gearing and free stuff etc what they take. Its not fair to other players.

First of all i play for 2 years now exclusive solo and most of time self found and its enjoyable for me this playing style. I dont watch streams anymore that much but streamers to any game are good thing specialy to this game. They make game more popular, entertain, you can learn from them, you can see end continent or very good gear, they find and make new builds becouse with some people support its easyer to get items for builds. Dont need to be salty if some one have more currency or better items than you even if you think i played whole week and got only 1 ex drop and that guy got 6L Shavs free this shouldnt affect you at all. Also not every streamer is getting free items, there are who play solo, i even see few times streamer refused to take gear from viewer becouse he want to achieve all alone. You should understand when new temp league starts and some people rush to 100 as solo player or small group of players you cant compete with people who have big support from others more expierenced than you and probaly play more hours. What i would like to see specific temp or even perma league which will had disabled trading bettwen players (no poetrade either) no group option you have to play solo and only self found

Because they play thier ass off. I watch like an hour of etup once. He does more maps in an hour than I do in a week. Like 10-20 maps an hour.

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Midas666 wrote:

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Dethklok wrote:

In all the hours I watched Etup and Havoc while I was playing warbands I must have missed the part where people were showering them in free maps. To me it looked like they played the game just like I do except they did it in a more efficient manner with a better group of people to run maps with.

People need to stop making shit up. Top guys on ladder are top because they are better at the game and put in more work than everyone else. I watched those guys run 74 maps for hours when they were lvl 95+.

Ofc they dont take nothing on stream, are u sick? I was ladder 26 on alive in last 1month/Hc after burning race.. 95lvl.. Solo, most of time grinding shitty maps and hoping bigger maps.. I know how much u need to play to get that level in month.. But mine point isnt that leveling, its that competitions gearing and free stuff etc what they take. Its not fair to other players.

Got any proof to back up your claims? Those guys stream 16+ hours a day if all of a sudden their stash was full of maps id think some people watching the stream would take notice. Threads like this one need to be deleted because all they do is spread misinformation.

What proof i need, this is discussion. I made question and havent got any good answers yet. And one point was, that GGG needs to make all competitions to solo if u can win high value computers etc. Like in this league.

What is point make any competitions if all players dont have same chance to win it in theory.

It is called the "kingmaker problem" in game design:
People who know they cannot win themselves will help someone they can relate to... like a streamer. And they hope to get their "5 seconds of glory" by contributing to his cause.

You can't do anything about it, people are people.
You would have to forbid partying, trading, any interaction between players.

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I looked at Etups stream for a while, and he seemed to get trades done I wouldn't even consider possible, so-called "bro deals". He also gets his stuff sold because people actually know he has it (not hidden in some dusty shop thread).

Other than that, it all looked pretty legit. He was mapping at lighnting speed, rolling some crazy maps, and investing a huge amount of time.
Anybody could have done that, given he had the same dedication, knowledge and free time.