[Lore] Why did Kaom kill them?

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Raycheetah wrote:

Don't forget what Lady Dialla tells us (corroborated by the Karui lore stone on the Tidal Island) about Kaom mercilessly killing all the Imperials he can find and hanging their heads on his longhouses. The guy was a bigger-than-life maniac who listened to whatever the voices in his head told him, so long as it could be justified according to his own beliefs.

By the way, I also wonder, now, about Greust. Remember, Yeena (the spiritually awakened one) says that, "...[I]n Greust's dream, he is never wrong."

Greust for Act V boss? =0[.]o=

I hope Greust is a better fighter than Vagan.

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DorenAlexander wrote:

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Raycheetah wrote:

Don't forget what Lady Dialla tells us (corroborated by the Karui lore stone on the Tidal Island) about Kaom mercilessly killing all the Imperials he can find and hanging their heads on his longhouses. The guy was a bigger-than-life maniac who listened to whatever the voices in his head told him, so long as it could be justified according to his own beliefs.

By the way, I also wonder, now, about Greust. Remember, Yeena (the spiritually awakened one) says that, "...[I]n Greust's dream, he is never wrong."

Greust for Act V boss? =0[.]o=

I hope Greust is a better fighter than Vagan.

Greust's boss power will be to turn you into a boar with limited melee skills, while he hunts you through a forest filled with feces-flinging monkeys. =^[.]^=

Kaom thought it was Tukohama requesting the sacrifice. He probably (maybe?) wouldn't have done it for anyone else.

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Bunnu wrote:

Kaom thought it was Tukohama requesting the sacrifice. He probably (maybe?) wouldn't have done it for anyone else.

This.

And yeah, Doedre, Maligaro, Shavronne and Malachai lived at the same time period and they were friends. Maligaro and Doedre got burned on the stake, Shavronne got rekt by Brutus

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Shagsbeard wrote:

They probably called him "Koam".

This triggers me so hard every time. If someone wants to piss me off, just call Kaom Koam.

For Tukohama!

A more interesting question would be why when you enter Daressos and Kaoms dreams you re experience their deeds before killing them. In Daresso's case the gladiator battles except the one with the giant the plaque speaks off. In Kaoms case the killing of his own men.

I wonder how and why they got trapped. Also it seems to me that Malachai's rapture device didn't give him the control he wanted. If he could do a cataclysm the player would have lorewise no chance at killing him. It sounds like he got very close to the power of the beast, but he got corrupted and made into a puppet.

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Metalsonicx wrote:

For Tukohama!

A more interesting question would be why when you enter Daressos and Kaoms dreams you re experience their deeds before killing them. In Daresso's case the gladiator battles except the one with the giant the plaque speaks off. In Kaoms case the killing of his own men.

I wonder how and why they got trapped. Also it seems to me that Malachai's rapture device didn't give him the control he wanted. If he could do a cataclysm the player would have lorewise no chance at killing him. It sounds like he got very close to the power of the beast, but he got corrupted and made into a puppet.

He talks about "a single death that will remark the birth of a new world" or something when encountering him with the Scion. Really sure that he was about to cause another cataclysm

Btw, the cataclysm wasnt that bad. Yeah sure people died and burned out of nothing to ashes and fire rained from the sky etc, but my fire res is capped.

Edit: And i think he got Kaom with the Tukohoma stuff trapped and Daresso...maybe with a cure for Merveil?

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Gulnar13 wrote:

So,i have a question. Thank to the carvings, the dialogues in act 4 and some divination cards, one can learn what Kaom did after he entered the caverns of Wrath, following the 'vision' he received from the so-called black spirit that is mentioned in the last act 1 carving. It's said that he walked up to highgate and mines, and somehow reached even Malachi, who 'offered' him something in exchange for the lives of his 500 warriors.

Budget cuts. When Kaom discovered that the Karui general fund was running low, and he wouldn't have enough to pay the pensions, he took his 500 highest paid governmental/tribal employees on a special one way cruise. Malachai was supposed to split the pension fund with Kaom, but instead, Malachai kept it all to help defray the costs of Dialla's hairstyles.

On a serious note, I was expecting to have to battle those 500 warriors in the final battle with Kaom. IMO - Kaom should have a huge sunken stone arena, with his warriors flooding in, archers at the top, and lots of the totems we saw on the way in. Additionally, Kaom would be able to periodically summon some of the Haku quest totems.

After disposing of Marceus Lioneye and his gemling legion, Kaom and his people wanted to settle on the coast of Wraeclast. Easier said than done -- their crops withered and their cattle died of disease. In addition to this, the thaumaturgy present in Wraeclast made the dead rasie as zombies, which had a significant impact on the Karui and their tribal ways: they could no longer leave their dead to decompose naturally, they had to chop the bodies up and burn them. Quite a culture shock, for a people so in tune with nature.

Confronted with these problems (severe lack of food and bodies not staying dead), I assume Kaom had his people turn to cannibalism, a feat they had not practiced in ages. Once this took place, the rest is simple logic: the biggest, strongest men make the biggest, juiciest stakes. Also, they're the first ones that would rise against you and challenge your authority, so why not kill 2 birds with one stone? Their flesh could help their wives and children endure through the famine and you don't have to keep an eye open at night.

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Gulnar13 wrote:

Now the question is: why Kaom accepted? I can understand why pretty much any other boss got corrupted by Malachi (Daresso was probably promised his love, Shavronne/Maligaro/Doedre/Piety were raised and made serve Malachi/joined him willingly and Voll was infected by the undeath corruption) but why did Kaom accept Malachi offer?

It's hard to discuss lore without a Lore subforum, but I think the NPCs you mentioned were not exactly promised things by Malachai. Daresso, for example, was captured by the Beast after his death - he did not reach it and offer it anything. Voll became an undead just like everyone else, but it doesn't look like he was actually touched directly by the Beast like Maligaro was.

The only ones who made something similar to a deal were, IMO, te Godless Three and Piety. Even Kaom didn't think he was dealing with the Beast - he saw it as Tukohama asking him for a sacrifice.

(Incidentally, Kaom was crazy before his corruption. The uniques tell how he slaughtered all the other Karui leaders before uniting all tribes and taking them to Wraeclast.)