Apep's Rage...

Imho dual wield these with Vertex 4L to negate a large part of increase in mana cost.

Or maybe it would be cool to see a BM incinerator dual wield these (maybe with a covenant ?)

i'm thinking perhaps a BM Firestormer using at least one of these wands, with a Infernal mantle might be worth looking into. Could be interesting.

According to my calculation Freezing Pulse might be the best spell for this wand. It has 100% damage effectiveness and still is a fast cast.

I hope Firestorm is good too, but its only 20% effectiveness.

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Vipermagi wrote:

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also I never understood the point of damage effectiveness. Why not just scale everything appropriately and do away with the effectiveness percentage? I guess I don't know how that mechanic works.

Fireball hits once every 0.85 seconds.
Incinerate hits once every 0.24 seconds.

+50 Damage is way more powerful on Incinerate, and as such it is reduced by Damage Effectiveness. If they just scaled the +50 Damage down instead, it would be literally useless for Fireball.

I see, so damage effectiveness is their way of normalizing the effect of supporting skills on actives skills that vary by cast speed. So in effect, the damage effectiveness is just a way to normalize cast speed.

i laughed when i saw someone say "make self cast firestorm a real thing" it always has been, dual apeps would just make it chaos based instead of fire with faster rain. it would also mean you better bloody well have a com with good frame rate, especially if you get a full quality firestorm, since firestorm is about hitting more not hitting harder.

Definitely the best weapon for incinerate.

Dual wielded Apep's Rage on my incinerator and reached 16k tooltip dps with GMP and righteous fire (100% uptime on RF with good potion management). (Stack cast speed, spell damage and projectile damage)

60% of the damage was chaos, so fire pen wasn't needed at all.

Only downside is the insane mana cost, but 3x Elreon Jewelry brings it down enough to be sustainable at a regular mana regen you would run with arctic armour.

It's a cool weapon yeah, but not as powerful ("nerf needed" -powerful) as some put it here.

For example, a max block build with Cybil's Paw will provide just as much damage output (or even more) with less mana cost.

For example, my Incinerate with

1) - Fire Cybil Incinerate
Incinerate - GMP - Echo - Faster Casting - Faster Proj - Fire Pen ~ 3 523 tooltip, 30 mana per cast, Cybil's Paw

2) - Apep's Incinerate with life leech
Incinerate - GMP - Echo - Added Chaos Damage - Faster Proj - Life Leech ~ 4 022 tooltip, 48 mana per cast, Apep's Rage

3) - Fire/Chaos Cybil Incinerate
Incinerate - GMP - Echo - Added Chaos Damage - Faster Proj - Faster Casting ~ 4 978 tooltip, 27 mana per cast, Cybil's Paw

4) - Apep's Incinerate withOUT life leech
Incinerate - GMP - Echo - Added Chaos Damage - Faster Proj - Faster Casting ~ 5 035 tooltip, 48 mana per cast, Apep's Rage

So with life leech -gem Apep's gets smoked and without life leech it still doesn't add enough damage to justify dropping the "free life leech" from Cybil's.

Apep's Rage... or:

How wands should have been designed in the first place.

It sucks that we can't go back in time, to convince the devs that all caster wands should have had a mod like this as a rollable explicit.

To me this's an off-hand weapon to add ~1/2 link bonus of damage at the cost of drinking mana potion which is utilized in occasional circumstances. (Advice - buff its chaos res to 20~30%)