Vagan Time Missions OP

This is my first ever complaint for this game:

Vagan timed missions need to be toned the hell down. Give us more time, have him use less potions or let us try it again if we fail. This arbitrary gear check to level a master essential to crafting the gear needed to defeat that very same master is poor design. After cruel I failed 100% of his quests.

Most recent fight I had:

LvL 59
1785k dps viper strike
45% dot damage
5.8 attacks per second
93% chance to hit

--Using vulnerability--

I'd say that's fairly good for act 1 merciless (beyond league). I don't even come close to finishing him off. So totally not ravin'. I'm so mad I got my jimmies rustled while riding in the waaaablance.


But seriously fix this, please.











...Love the rest of the expansion. Thank you.
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Rumthorp wrote:

1785k dps viper strike

holy
failed with 9.5k pure phys doublestike dps
im lv69, met him at lunaris3
balance would be nice.
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Rumthorp wrote:
This is my first ever complaint for this game:

Vagan timed missions need to be toned the hell down. Give us more time, have him use less potions or let us try it again if we fail. This arbitrary gear check to level a master essential to crafting the gear needed to defeat that very same master is poor design. After cruel I failed 100% of his quests.

Most recent fight I had:

LvL 59
1785k dps viper strike
45% dot damage
5.8 attacks per second
93% chance to hit

--Using vulnerability--

I'd say that's fairly good for act 1 merciless (beyond league). I don't even come close to finishing him off. So totally not ravin'. I'm so mad I got my jimmies rustled while riding in the waaaablance.


But seriously fix this, plea

I find the difficulty of masters inconsistent. I got rape by him in a 54 area but then killed him in 10 seconds when I faced him in a 59

Last edited by Saltychipmunk#1430 on Aug 23, 2014, 10:31:23 AM
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Alea wrote:
too hard compared to the others


I'm inclined to agree. It's the potions that are insane for the timed runs. Get him down to 1/3 with 16s left, back to full. Get him down to 1/3 with 5s left, back to full.

Grrrr
Yep, yep, and yep. There's a few things that could be done, but IMO the timer needs to be removed, it seems like he only has a timer sometimes anyway?

Also what is up with his missions when in a party? Kill more dummies than him?... They are pathetically easy. lil bitta balance needed then it'll be all good.
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Alea wrote:
too hard compared to the others


QFT
The potions gimmick "worked" for me the first time we fought. After that, it was just annoying to try to remember how many he had used. Why not increase his HP by 3x and cut out the potions? I also noticed the timed fight has a very steep DPS requirement. Far harder to complete those than comparable-leveled master missions.

EDIT: Except the Haiku "Rocks fall, everyone dies" missions.

Rocks, everyone dies
Haku just destroyed you all
Rocks, everyone dies
Last edited by Sayyid#1990 on Aug 23, 2014, 4:14:34 PM
I have to throw my hat in the ring here as well.

I don't normally Support nerfing content but this one needs an adjustment.

Getting Daily from Zana to have to do another mission for Vagan with timer is horrible and fail both.

Vagan potions or whatever he's doing makes the fight impossible. Even worse on 69+ maps.

This one needs adjusted.


This is someone coming from HATING Nerfing Content..
If there is a Hell! I'll see you there!
So I was doing Piety runs with a fairly nice party, all 60-70 chars, all of the pulling their weight and not dying to anything while running through Lunaris and hammering down Piety.

So 4 runs in, we come across Vagan. Vagan + 2 companions, the whirling blades fight.

Almost every player died to him, some repeatedly, he healed 5 times (!?) and had more health than Piety it seemed. Took a good 10 minutes to beat him, with me being one of the more squeeshy chars in the party having to run around casting all the time.

Within my guild, a lot of players just skip Vagan especially at higher. It is just not worth losing 10% xp (or ripping) over that bit of master-xp.

The timed version are even worse, I found one instance where I had to beat a lvl 44 Vagan in 60 seconds, while I was level 59, 1900-sh SB & about 18 Raging spirits in the field (at level 14) which should be on average around 4000 dps even if you are not on point all the time, but I could not beat down this leapslamming Vagan. Well over levelled, over geared and still impossible.

I feel as if Vagan is about 20 levels harder than what you see on screen. Vagan in Act 1 Merciless = harder than Piety. Vagan in Act 2 or higher = harder than Dominus.

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