Learn html 4 or 5 first?

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Moonyu wrote:

How much did it change? If five offers a few new features, but remains basically the same, go with 4.

If it is a major overhaul, go with 5.

And let us know. I need to learn myself.

The one thing to know about why to use 5 is that it eliminates the need for use of flash, which is no longer supported on most new OSes and devices (just windows pc + linux). Even in the case of sideloaded flash on a android you'll find that it is blocked from the site (have to use hulu+ app) anyway unless custom patched to report itself as a desktop (f'ing hulu!). HTML 5 is now being phased in on the wiiu, ps4, xb one, windows devices, android and apple devices just to get rid of that blight known as adobe. If you want forward compatibility on devices beyond windows pcs (and linux) you have to move to html 5.



Also btw, adobe flash is by itself responsible for over half of all malware. virii, and zero day attacks (flash and acrobat) so anything that reduces that blight to the net is a great thing to me.

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MadMuerto wrote:

Thx SayyadinaAtreides (nice name btw). That is exactly what I was looking for.

Last question:
Which html editor/tool/program program should I use at the beginning:

- A text editor (for example Bluefish http://bluefish.openoffice.nl/index.html)
- Go directly to wyswyg program (as I said, I could have Dreamweaver CS6 if I want)
- Or begin with the editor to "see" the coding and then go to wyswyg?

Thx

Always start with raw code to demystify whatever editor you may use later. I still prefer Notepad++ or gedit for everything I do; I've never actually played around with WYSWYG programs, even in professional work, but I probably will someday. The more you learn of the language, the less you'll feel the need for a more complicated editor.

This holds true for just about all languages, actually. The only time I've preferred something like Eclipse for working in server-side languages is when I worked at a company with thousands (maybe tens of thousands) of source files. Learn the language, learn about Makefiles (or the equivalent for your language of choice), live happily ever after.

Thank you very much. This covers everything I wanted to know.

Glad to be of service. :)

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SayyadinaAtreides wrote:

Always start with raw code to demystify whatever editor you may use later. I still prefer Notepad++ or gedit for everything I do; I've never actually played around with WYSWYG programs, even in professional work, but I probably will someday. The more you learn of the language, the less you'll feel the need for a more complicated editor.

In my case, this advice is very true for Eclipse where everything breaks:
http://www.ihateeclipse.com/

Just today, eclipse won't compile my code. Fortunately I know my way with mvn commands.

God why, why is eclipse so popular that many companies use it. Even though it's killing productivity.

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ManicCompression wrote:

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SayyadinaAtreides wrote:

Always start with raw code to demystify whatever editor you may use later. I still prefer Notepad++ or gedit for everything I do; I've never actually played around with WYSWYG programs, even in professional work, but I probably will someday. The more you learn of the language, the less you'll feel the need for a more complicated editor.

In my case, this advice is very true for Eclipse where everything breaks:
http://www.ihateeclipse.com/

Just today, eclipse won't compile my code. Fortunately I know my way with mvn commands.

God why, why is eclipse so popular that many companies use it. Even though it's killing productivity.

Because Visual Studio C++ costs like a thousand dollars, and Eclipse is free.

Eclipse has a huge population of C/C++ users who are using the MinGW toolchain.

There is also Visual Studio Express wich is completely free and has all the important bits, at least for a personal use.

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SayyadinaAtreides wrote:

Always learn the most up-to-date features that you can. w3schools is a good place to start, and their HTML tutorials are split pretty well: HTML 5 adds a few features and deprecates a few features, but most of the HTML 5-compliant code you write will be HTML 4 (or 3, etc.).

DO: Learn the new HTML 5 features before considering yourself "done"
DON'T: Ever use any of the deprecated HTML 4 features

DO: Familiarize yourself with the difference between XHTML and HTML
DON'T: Write non-XHTML code after that

DO: Learn basic CSS to go along with your HTML
DON'T: Forget to use lovely tools like http://validator.w3.org/ to help you clean up your coding style

Hi, I'm Avramovic and I fully support this post (and www.w3schools.com).

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Upandatem wrote:

There is also Visual Studio Express wich is completely free and has all the important bits, at least for a personal use.

No add-ins which I can't really live with.

In any language it's always good to learn the important idioms.