More Forsaken Masters Information
This article assumes you've read the announcement of Path of Exile: Forsaken Masters at: www.pathofexile.com/poefm
The purpose of this article is to explain our design direction behind the expansion and how some of the new features work. There are plenty of other changes that aren't described in this article. Any information in here may change before it's released.
General Goals For Expansion
We had five broad goals for the design of the Forsaken Masters mini-expansion:
How Master Levelling Works
Each Master has a different type of mission with many different variations and combinations of events that can occur during it. We've announced two of the Masters so far, and there are still five unannounced ones with their own unique missions and variations.
In normal difficulty, Masters are introduced over time (a couple per act). After normal difficulty, they can occur in any area including end-game Maps.
When you complete a mission for a Master, you gain reputation and favour with that Master. Reputation is like experience and dictates the level of the Master. There are eight levels. Favour is used as a currency to purchase decorations for your Hideout from the Master.
There are two ways to receive a mission from a Master:
a) Encounter the Master randomly in the world. Masters have a chance of spawning in almost any area that you enter (including end-game Maps). Upon encountering them, you can do a mission within that area. There's no limit to the number of these missions you can do, but they generally award less reputation than:
b) Daily missions. Once a Master is in your Hideout, you can perform one mission per day without having to encounter them in the wilderness. This means that casual players can make meaningful progress on their Master levels over time, but they'll be outleveled by a player who plays a lot of the regular content in addition to doing their daily Master missions.
Once you've helped a Master one time, he appears in regular towns
As Masters level up, you get access to:
Leveling the Masters to maximum level isn't meant to be a multi-year grind. There's a challenge to hit level 8 with all 7 Masters during the three month leagues. It's easier to level just a few of them to level 8 (the Master limit in your Hideout controls how many Masters you can do daily missions for).
While doing your daily Master missions is a great way to make progress towards their higher levels, its main utility is providing an easy way to encounter the mission. We expect that the bulk of Master levelling by dedicated players will occur in the actual game world and in end-game Maps. For example, an average dedicated player might do his one daily mission per Master and then 3-4 more missions per Master in a given play session, if he's trying to reach maximum level.
Many MMORPGs have left people with a bad feeling towards daily quests because they feel penalised if they don't log in to do the quest each day. That's not the case here - you can just do an extra one the next day by finding the Master in the wilderness. There's also no limit to the number of missions you can do in a specific day.
Masters as Vendors
Like regular NPCs, Masters can sell you items. Unlike normal vendors, the items sold by Masters change once per day (at midnight UTC). Each Master sells some general items and some aligned with his underlying class.
In our current build, the following items are added to the Master's vendor inventory at these reputation levels. This may change!
These are priced so that you don't want to buy everything in the shop each day from each vendor. You should check the vendor and buy the item if it's a good deal. For example, you wouldn't want to pay 5 Chaos Orbs for a Redbeak, but that'd be a great deal for a Dream Fragments.
How Hideouts Work
Each Master has a Hideout in a different tileset. Once a Master reaches level 3, he offers to take you to the Hideout to preview it. If you like it, you can make it your Hideout. There's no cost for this.
As you level your Master up, you're able to upgrade the size of your Hideout. There are three sizes and they each support a different number of Masters (ranging from 2 to 4).
The Masters and various objects such as your stash and guild stash can be moved around and rotated. Crafting Benches (explained later in this article) from each Master can also be placed. Any decorations purchased from the Master can be placed, rotated and reclaimed for free.
Masters sell you decorations for “favour”, which you get in addition to reputation when doing missions for them. They go into your Hideout Stash. We may later sell some decorations, Hideout tilesets or special environments/cosmetics for real money. We're considering selling mannequins that let you show off your items and microtransaction effects in your Hideout. We'd like to let people keep their spare pets in their Hideout. These features may be ready by 1.2.0 deployment or may be in subsequent patches.
Note that your progress with your Masters and the status of your Hideout are shared between all of your characters in a specific league. If you create a new character in a league that you've already played in, then they can take advantage of your existing pimped out Hideout and options provided by your higher level Masters. Decorations you unlock are stored in the Hideout Stash for that league and merge into your Standard or Hardcore collection when the league ends, like race stashes do.
You can invite friends to your Hideout and can share your Hideout with your guild. We're still working on the rules for this.
We had a few goals we wanted to achieve with improvements to the crafting system:
Once a Master has been invited to your Hideout, you can place his crafting bench in your Hideout. As the Master levels up, the crafting bench gets more capabilities. Only the player who owns the Hideout can use his crafting bench. When you click on your crafting bench, they're presented with a window that you can place an item in. A number of crafting options are displayed, with costs.
We've released information about two of our Masters so far. Their crafting options are:
New Challenge League Prizes
Each pair of challenge leagues contains eight challenges. Completing all eight difficult challenges earns you an exclusive t-shirt (which some people value enough to offer $1000 to other players for on the black market, it seems).
It's very hard to pitch the exact difficulty of these challenge leagues, so the number of people who won t-shirts in the past has varied between 14 (Ambush and Invasion) and 61 (Anarchy and Onslaught).
With the new Rampage and Beyond challenge leagues, we'll be changing the prize structure as follows.
This incentivises pushing for at least five of the challenges and also allows us to pitch the difficulty of the hardest one to be slightly easier, so that ideally hundreds rather than dozens of players can complete them all. The fastest 50 players will still receive t-shirts.
New Challenge League Durations
We typically run four-month challenge leagues because our expansions take four to five months to make. The next big slice of content is due in approximately March, so rather than running six-month challenge leagues, we're going to do two sets of three-month leagues. This is partly because we have so many cool ideas for challenge leagues and starting new ones in December for the Christmas period is a convenient possibility.
Players often report that the last few weeks of the four-month leagues are somewhat stale as people wait for them to merge with Standard. We were initially concerned that shortening them to three months would just move the stale period, but we're now relatively confident that this effect is because players have become better at playing Path of Exile efficiently since release (reaching higher levels and end-game content/crafting more quickly). We'll keep a close eye on how these leagues go and will plan our next challenge leagues around the data and feedback we receive.
Passive Tree Changes
We've redesigned some large portions of the Passive Skill Tree - primarily the Witch and Shadow starting areas and the areas surrounding the Witch, Shadow and Ranger.
The Shadow area now has a physical and an elemental section (rather than melee vs. spellcaster). This means that you don't need to decide on the attack vs. spell choice until much later in your character's development.
Groups of elemental and weapon passives for the Witch, Shadow and Ranger have been improved so that they're more impactful and on more desirable routes.
One design goal was that if a new player heads for a large cluster of themed passives that it would provide a solid backbone for that build. There are various choices on the way that allow them to support this build. Previously, one of the largest clusters was the curses cluster. Many Witches headed directly for this, which often resulted in a unfocused build.
We have added a notable passive to every passive group outside of starting areas.
You will be granted a one-time full passive respec with the 1.2.0 patch. If your tree was affected by the changes, it'll be automatically reset.
There are plenty of other tree changes that we haven't described yet. We're still iterating on the tree and making more changes. We'll be releasing more information about the tree's new layout closer to release.
Skill Balance and Mana Costs
We've rebalanced many skills in 1.2.0. Some of the less-frequently used skills have received power buffs. Almost all skills have dropped in mana cost.
Last edited by Chris on Oct 10, 2014, 12:08:37 AM
on Aug 1, 2014, 12:42:28 AM
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Thank you so much for this post. I'm not sure why I ever had doubts. :P
on Aug 1, 2014, 1:49:07 PM
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