Avatar of fire needs 75% phys -> fire
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Something needs to be done about how restrictive the keystone is.
I'm talking about getting 100% fire damage from a 100% physical attack or spell To get 100% phys to fire without using infernal blow/blackgleam/a cold attack with cold-fire you require 2. Chernobog's Pillar - 25% phys to fire You lose your shield slot, the second most defensive gear slot after your chest piece. 1. Hrimsorrow - 25% phys to cold You lose your glove slot, the most utility orientated gear piece in my opinion. 3. Cold to fire support gem - last 25% cold to fire You lose a support gem, usually equivalent to about 20-30% overall power of a skill. You lose 2 item slots and a support gem just to reach 100% damage effectiveness. It is never going to be comparable to a standard build with requirements this harsh. Please take a look into this keystone, it has such awesome potential but it's impossible to make a build with it that can't be done better the normal way. With 75% you could sacrifice either your shield slot, or use Hrimsorrow and cold to fire. But not both, both is too much. P̯̹̙̥̉̏ͦͯA̠̝̰̣̯͕͚̲̭͈̥̠͑̓̿ͦ̾ͯ̍ͅͅȚ̜̦͕̞̞̠̮͎͔͙͔̺̺͉̟̿̿̏ͬ͛͋̍ͮ̌̚H̹͕͚̟͍̘̤̱̻̬͓̬̮̫̦͖̳̹ͮͨ̒̉ͮ̿̈ͪ̇̿͆ͭ̃ͭ̃ͭ̚ ̲̫̞̤͓̳͑ͬ̾͌ͯ͐͂̿͗ͨ͋͑̍͐͗̾̄O͕̮̻͔̳̠͉͖̳͖͈̻͇͈̣̙̪͈ͨ͐̒̽ͣ̋ͅF̣͎̞̞̯̝ͦ͌̆ͥ̈͐̾ͣ̔ͮ̐̀̏ͪ̚ ̟̩͙̙̩̮̻̼ͬ͑ͥͦ͗̿E̼̭̩̜͕̱̤̭̞͖̳͍̝̤̼͓̗ͩͫ̌ͬ̊̋̄͑͗̽X͕̰̪̱̲̩̙̦͓͓̯̠̤̝̝̯̣̥̀̋̌̍̚Ȉ̖̟͔̩̝̊̿ͪͅL̺͓̻̰̀͋̅ͮͧE͔̼͚͕̮̻̟̩̪̖̫̪̦͙̎̑͆̏ͨͅ Last edited by lukeiy#6623 on Jun 25, 2014, 12:02:35 AM
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its meant to be for niche builds and not the next best OP build people faceroll the entire game with. Im very happy with my avatar as she has fire spear, burning cascade and fire arc thx to this keystone.
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" Uh read the title again, and maybe read my post as well. I was talking about physical attacks, and increasing the versatility of AoF. It has nothing to do with Cold spells which already function fine with AoF. P̯̹̙̥̉̏ͦͯA̠̝̰̣̯͕͚̲̭͈̥̠͑̓̿ͦ̾ͯ̍ͅͅȚ̜̦͕̞̞̠̮͎͔͙͔̺̺͉̟̿̿̏ͬ͛͋̍ͮ̌̚H̹͕͚̟͍̘̤̱̻̬͓̬̮̫̦͖̳̹ͮͨ̒̉ͮ̿̈ͪ̇̿͆ͭ̃ͭ̃ͭ̚ ̲̫̞̤͓̳͑ͬ̾͌ͯ͐͂̿͗ͨ͋͑̍͐͗̾̄O͕̮̻͔̳̠͉͖̳͖͈̻͇͈̣̙̪͈ͨ͐̒̽ͣ̋ͅF̣͎̞̞̯̝ͦ͌̆ͥ̈͐̾ͣ̔ͮ̐̀̏ͪ̚ ̟̩͙̙̩̮̻̼ͬ͑ͥͦ͗̿E̼̭̩̜͕̱̤̭̞͖̳͍̝̤̼͓̗ͩͫ̌ͬ̊̋̄͑͗̽X͕̰̪̱̲̩̙̦͓͓̯̠̤̝̝̯̣̥̀̋̌̍̚Ȉ̖̟͔̩̝̊̿ͪͅL̺͓̻̰̀͋̅ͮͧE͔̼͚͕̮̻̟̩̪̖̫̪̦͙̎̑͆̏ͨͅ
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" Thanks for clarifying. I think its just one of those things you have to work harder for with some skills and items and damage types. Thats kinda how i see it. I want to try a new Avatar eventually with a melee weapon and phys conversion and see how that goes. |
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" I am very confused. Your entire post is talking about converting cold to fire. YOu mention hrimsorrow, cold to fire support, neither of which are about physical damage. Can you please clarify so your post makes more sense about discussing phys->fire conversion? and why you have other things talking about cold->fire instead? |
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I am guessing it has to do with transforming physical to cold, which then get's transformed to fire from the cold portion?
Something like that? Peace, -Boem- Freedom is not worth having if it does not include the freedom to make mistakes
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Freezing pulse, Cold to fire, Avatar of Fire. 100% Fire. gg. Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get me.
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Burning discharge is always fun
Last edited by Xendran#1127 on Jun 24, 2014, 11:30:19 PM
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" This. Without Hrimsorrow you can't get 100% conversion. You have to convert the last 25% to cold, and then that 25% to fire with cold to fire. Unless there's something I'm missing... Updated the first post to hopefully be clearer. P̯̹̙̥̉̏ͦͯA̠̝̰̣̯͕͚̲̭͈̥̠͑̓̿ͦ̾ͯ̍ͅͅȚ̜̦͕̞̞̠̮͎͔͙͔̺̺͉̟̿̿̏ͬ͛͋̍ͮ̌̚H̹͕͚̟͍̘̤̱̻̬͓̬̮̫̦͖̳̹ͮͨ̒̉ͮ̿̈ͪ̇̿͆ͭ̃ͭ̃ͭ̚ ̲̫̞̤͓̳͑ͬ̾͌ͯ͐͂̿͗ͨ͋͑̍͐͗̾̄O͕̮̻͔̳̠͉͖̳͖͈̻͇͈̣̙̪͈ͨ͐̒̽ͣ̋ͅF̣͎̞̞̯̝ͦ͌̆ͥ̈͐̾ͣ̔ͮ̐̀̏ͪ̚ ̟̩͙̙̩̮̻̼ͬ͑ͥͦ͗̿E̼̭̩̜͕̱̤̭̞͖̳͍̝̤̼͓̗ͩͫ̌ͬ̊̋̄͑͗̽X͕̰̪̱̲̩̙̦͓͓̯̠̤̝̝̯̣̥̀̋̌̍̚Ȉ̖̟͔̩̝̊̿ͪͅL̺͓̻̰̀͋̅ͮͧE͔̼͚͕̮̻̟̩̪̖̫̪̦͙̎̑͆̏ͨͅ Last edited by lukeiy#6623 on Jun 25, 2014, 12:02:53 AM
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lol at the people that cant even do basic math for AoF conversion (also speak so much for their posting quality here)
Few benefits to physical AoF: 1) ignite chance/able to prolif with gem 2) both physical and fire mods affect damage 3) able to use curses (possible to lower resist below zero, further increasing dmg) 4) can use hatred (which can be converted to fire as well) disadvantage: 1) shield and glove unique both completely mediocre endgame 2) mandatory cold to fire gem slot 3) can only do fire damage (cannot use with popular fire uniques like infernal mantle) 4) why do you want to discard physical damage, when enemies in this game have very little armour, as oppose to fire damage where there are tons of ele resist mobs everywhere, some even overcapped. atziri is also ignite immune. i guess that they could introduce a few more better uniques with the phy to fire mod, but for now its defnitely slightly underwhelming at best, though AoF is not popular atm. |
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