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Doeboy1337 wrote:
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THeRoCK2 wrote:
So it is good to combine volls protector and romira?
yep, so i do
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He asked about Voll's Protector, not Voll's Devotion.
Romira's Banquet would work well with Voll's Devotion, but I doubt it would work well with Voll's Protector. The most power charges you'd ever have is one, and that's if RB removes charges on a crit before Voll's adds one.
RB should only be used on a CoC build if you do not have the capability to use Voll's Protector or the Power Charge on Crit support gem. It also shouldn't be left in your crit build and should be removed as soon as possible.
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Posted byNatharias#4684on Jun 20, 2014, 10:57:13 AM
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Natharias wrote:
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Doeboy1337 wrote:
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THeRoCK2 wrote:
So it is good to combine volls protector and romira?
yep, so i do
gear:
He asked about Voll's Protector, not Voll's Devotion.
Romira's Banquet would work well with Voll's Devotion, but I doubt it would work well with Voll's Protector. The most power charges you'd ever have is one, and that's if RB removes charges on a crit before Voll's adds one.
RB should only be used on a CoC build if you do not have the capability to use Voll's Protector or the Power Charge on Crit support gem. It also shouldn't be left in your crit build and should be removed as soon as possible.
first of all, ye i should read more clearly :D
2nd. RB is for my way of use way stronger. i collect charges and wont crit most of the time until i got them full (which is <1sec since cyclone hits like xx times a sec).
it's all about how much basecrit u got. (in my case its ~30% uncharged)
most of the time i got 4power charges > crit > 4 endurance + 1-3 frenzy > no crits > 4PC 4EC 1-3FC > Crit > 4EC 1-3FC etc...
nomatter what i do on the map iam getting a charge. (can stand still getting hit -> cwdt > EC)
btw 3rd thing: pcoc and vols chest aint the same.
chest gives u a charge per enemie hit with a crit.
that gem (pcoc) will only give u a PC if ur attak crits.
this is a big difference in collecting charges for discharge, never go for the gem since ur max charges might be 1! the chest can push u to the max where we'd end like i do with my ring. (it's just the other way arround if u got a high base crit like with a wand/dagger)
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Posted byDoe#2466on Jun 20, 2014, 11:05:20 AM
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Doeboy1337 wrote:
about the RT thing iam not sure, does it disable crits for attacks only or spells aswell. and with a decent dagger u can deal way more damage if ur spells can crit. (and mjölner costs a lot)
You never crit on anything with RT. With Mjolner that's fine - obviously a bit of a problem for a CoC build of any sort.
Mjolner is still insanely expensive, although not as bad as it was when it was first released. I think it's around 40 exalts in the timed leagues. I was lucky and chanced mine.
Another possibility is to use some other trigger effect (cast when stunned, CWdT, etc.) to trigger the discharge. Less damage, but discharge does insane damage pretty much no matter what.
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Posted byNemmerle#4704on Jun 20, 2014, 11:44:58 AM
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http://www.twitch.tv/do3b0y
stream up @ midnight grinds^^
e: off again, have take care of some for the next hour(s).. will be back later for sure 100%
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Posted byDoe#2466on Jun 20, 2014, 12:38:56 PM
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Doeboy1337 wrote:
first of all, ye i should read more clearly :D
2nd. RB is for my way of use way stronger. i collect charges and wont crit most of the time until i got them full (which is <1sec since cyclone hits like xx times a sec).
it's all about how much basecrit u got. (in my case its ~30% uncharged)
most of the time i got 4power charges > crit > 4 endurance + 1-3 frenzy > no crits > 4PC 4EC 1-3FC > Crit > 4EC 1-3FC etc...
nomatter what i do on the map iam getting a charge. (can stand still getting hit -> cwdt > EC)
btw 3rd thing: pcoc and vols chest aint the same.
chest gives u a charge per enemie hit with a crit.
that gem (pcoc) will only give u a PC if ur attak crits.
this is a big difference in collecting charges for discharge, never go for the gem since ur max charges might be 1! the chest can push u to the max where we'd end like i do with my ring. (it's just the other way arround if u got a high base crit like with a wand/dagger)
There is.
If you just use PCoC, you will only ever have one power charge when using Discharge and scoring a crit, unless you've had multiple crits without procing Discharge.
If you use Voll's, you get a power charge with each crit, so you could have more than one and Discharge can give you a bunch of charges on a crit.
If you use Romira's, you only get power charges when you don't crit and you lose all power charges when you crit. Not only does this lower your crit chance and the ability to Discharge, but it limits the amount of power charges you can get when you crit before Discharging.
Voll's is really the only way to go.
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Posted byNatharias#4684on Jun 20, 2014, 1:56:05 PM
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Natharias wrote:
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Doeboy1337 wrote:
first of all, ye i should read more clearly :D
2nd. RB is for my way of use way stronger. i collect charges and wont crit most of the time until i got them full (which is <1sec since cyclone hits like xx times a sec).
it's all about how much basecrit u got. (in my case its ~30% uncharged)
most of the time i got 4power charges > crit > 4 endurance + 1-3 frenzy > no crits > 4PC 4EC 1-3FC > Crit > 4EC 1-3FC etc...
nomatter what i do on the map iam getting a charge. (can stand still getting hit -> cwdt > EC)
btw 3rd thing: pcoc and vols chest aint the same.
chest gives u a charge per enemie hit with a crit.
that gem (pcoc) will only give u a PC if ur attak crits.
this is a big difference in collecting charges for discharge, never go for the gem since ur max charges might be 1! the chest can push u to the max where we'd end like i do with my ring. (it's just the other way arround if u got a high base crit like with a wand/dagger)
There is.
If you just use PCoC, you will only ever have one power charge when using Discharge and scoring a crit, unless you've had multiple crits without procing Discharge.
If you use Voll's, you get a power charge with each crit, so you could have more than one and Discharge can give you a bunch of charges on a crit.
If you use Romira's, you only get power charges when you don't crit and you lose all power charges when you crit. Not only does this lower your crit chance and the ability to Discharge, but it limits the amount of power charges you can get when you crit before Discharging.
Voll's is really the only way to go.
like i said it's depending on ur basecrit :)
i had both coc cyclone with dagger (10,x%cc base ~ 7x% uncharged global) and now the soultaker version (5%base crit ~30%cc uncharged global).
and since we talking about lowlife a vol's chest aint an option anyway :)
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Posted byDoe#2466on Jun 20, 2014, 9:18:37 PM
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Doeboy1337 wrote:
http://www.twitch.tv/do3b0y
stream up @ midnight grinds^^
e: off again, have take care of some for the next hour(s).. will be back later for sure 100%
I'll keep checking from time to time. Thanks for the help
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Posted byenigma1406#0526on Jun 20, 2014, 9:25:39 PM
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enigma1406 wrote:
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Doeboy1337 wrote:
http://www.twitch.tv/do3b0y
stream up @ midnight grinds^^
e: off again, have take care of some for the next hour(s).. will be back later for sure 100%
I'll keep checking from time to time. Thanks for the help
just went online :)
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Posted byDoe#2466on Jun 20, 2014, 9:55:17 PM
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