Aura Build: You supply auras to the party

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KG31459 wrote:

Calling something an aura build only implies that the use of auras is critically important to the build. Play 1h elemental spectral throw. Turn off the auras - see how well it works. It is an aura build.

To avoid misleading people attempting to answer your request for help you should've been more specific.

Calling something an aura build does not mean that it is. But, by your logic, anything that requires something must then be called by what it requires.

So now we only have Shav's builds, instead of low life MFers.

Instead of RF builds we have Rise of the Phoenix builds.

Instead of aura builds we have Shav/Prism Guardian/Alpha's Howl builds.

Instead of an elemental spectral throw build we have a MoM/Dodge build.

Instead of a dual totem build we have a Soul Mantle build.

Instead of a Cast on Crit build we have a Voll's Protector build.

Instead of a five curse build we have a dual Doedre's Damning and Windscream build.

Instead of a summoner build we have a Bones of Ullr, dual Midnight Bargain, Sidhebreath build.

Instead of a max block ES build we have an Aegis Aurora build.

Instead of a non-crit Cold Snap build we have a Romira's Banquet build.

See how asinine your logic is, or should I keep going? Nice derailing of this thread, by the way. It seems to be all that most people do on these forums.

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Natharias wrote:

Calling something an aura build does not mean that it is. But, by your logic, anything that requires something must then be called by what it requires.

So now we only have Shav's builds, instead of low life MFers.

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See how asinine your logic is, or should I keep going? Nice derailing of this thread, by the way. It seems to be all that most people do on these forums.

You're misinterpreting or failing to grasp my reasoning - I won't speculate on which.

All those builds you list are insert-item-name-here builds. When you fail to describe them adequately, the rest of the 'build' is open to interpretation by your readers.

Edit:

I was unnecessarily harsh in my first post in this thread and I apologize for that. I shouldn't be let out of my cage before my blood:caffeine ratio is stabilized.

Why do you want to play someone else's premade paint by colors build?
Afraid of failing?
Or dont understand how to determine what is best? If this is the case, then playing someone elses build wont help a whole lot. Do what you think is right. If it doesnt work, you learn from it and do it differently.
What more is there to say really?
This brings to mind a time some new SUV broke down outside my house. I went out to help. Told the rich 17 year old that i could fix it by cutting a hose. He told me a tow truck was on the way and that his mechanic would fix it 'the right way' with lots of condescension in his voice.
There is more than one way to do about anything. If he wants to spend 120 for a tow, and 150 for a mechanic to replace a hose thats his business. But had he been more open to alternative possibilities he could have saved himself the time and the money.
But frankly he deserved to pay for his limited mindset.

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Why do you want to play someone else's premade paint by colors build?
Afraid of failing?

No, because I want to see the reasoning behind the skills they use. Does everyone run around with a Redbeak for the outright 100% increased damage, and can use just about any skill? Does someone focus on block and use a Cybil's Paw? Does someone use something and then switch to a high level rare with good damage?

This isn't about failing, this is about what others do and why they do it.

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Or dont understand how to determine what is best? If this is the case, then playing someone elses build wont help a whole lot. Do what you think is right. If it doesnt work, you learn from it and do it differently.
What more is there to say really?
This brings to mind a time some new SUV broke down outside my house. I went out to help. Told the rich 17 year old that i could fix it by cutting a hose. He told me a tow truck was on the way and that his mechanic would fix it 'the right way' with lots of condescension in his voice.
There is more than one way to do about anything. If he wants to spend 120 for a tow, and 150 for a mechanic to replace a hose thats his business. But had he been more open to alternative possibilities he could have saved himself the time and the money.
But frankly he deserved to pay for his limited mindset.

This would've been off topic and of a limited mindset if this thread wasn't derailed already, so I'll respond to it.

Person A asks what skills other aura builds use. Person B, C, and D all respond with the same or similar answer, and Person E responds with a different answer. Person A then asks why those are better than what he is using, and they debate over what is more efficient in various ways. Maybe Person A's method saves more on points and gives more survivability later on while all of the rest invest points into damage.

It seems your limited mindset prevents you from understanding why someone would start such a conversation, but I'll put it as bluntly as I can.

What better way to find out the most efficient method than to debate with others what you think is best and what they are doing.

Example: Redbeak gives you a straight up 100% increased damage on low life. Cybil's increases your damage based on block. Obviously a Redbeak EK will do more damage but a Cybil's variant will most likely have more block. Redbeak does more damage, Cybil's takes less damage overall.

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Natharias wrote:

What better way to find out the most efficient method than to debate with others what you think is best and what they are doing.

How i would love a society that conformed to such an ideal as 'sharing information to find the truth'.
In my experience debate has little to do with finding truth or agreement. Its a competition of rhetoric with the victor being the one with superior verbal/writing skills, persistence, and tactics.