Vaal skills are basically a giant noob trap.

Interesting.

Might have to go for high-block WoE Dual Strike again in the new leagues.

That's one build that certainly has room for more skills! I stopped using Cyclone due to desync, now it looks like I may get to throw a super (but thankfully stationary!) Cyclone back into the mix.

Maybe a couple of others besides.

I run a 6-linked incinerate that acts perfectly well as both a group destroyer and single target, I have a 3-linked fire trap on my M2 that I almost never use anymore that I think a vaal skill would fit only perfectly.

Also, I only play solo. Gimmie all the vaal power. I deserve it.

so much qq in this thread over a great new system added. Seems clear to me that you just use vaal skills as u would any other gem build. u dont need a set of 6l with and without vaal skills. People love to bitch GGG

This forum is Courage the Cowardly Dog.

This entire thread feels like OP was expecting MMO style powercreep, realizes there will never be MMO style powercreep in PoE, and is disappointed.

These gems give different options. Use them if they suit your playstyle, or if you like their flavor or if it's mathematically more powerful or whatever else. Reason no3 is not the only reason for stuff to exist, ya know?

These gems look like they would be decent as standalone unlinked skills. A DD that sets off 10 (or more) explosions with one click? an ice nova that chains entire screens etc.

That being said I think finding a place for them in a 3 or 4 l eq piece would be suitable.

Depending on how quickly they recharge on kill, couldn't you just have multiple copies of the same on in different links? And just cycle through them.

One thing I just noticed. Lvl 12 vaal fireball has damage that is closer to lvl 19 regular fireball.

from the wiki:

fireball level 12: 129-194

from the video:

vaal fireball level 12: 322-483

If I am right than that is a fucking massive difference.

Depending on what it does, Discharge could be a nice "finisher" Vaal 4L if it does more damage than the original :D

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Sheriff_K wrote:

Depending on how quickly they recharge on kill, couldn't you just have multiple copies of the same on in different links? And just cycle through them.

Unknown if multiple copies of the same skill will recharge each other. From the video, different skills appear to charge each other. That is known.

If you ever run into an instance where the next cast in the chain fell short some souls, you'd have no way to quickly charge it. Without a regular spammy 6l, your chain could come to an end. Lot of work to do something that spammy 6l already does fine.