CoC: Desecrate + Detonate Dead

After a "lucky" drop I start to foolin' around with a CoC character..

I don't really like discharge or any other skill gem like Ice Spear, Firball ecc... I think I see them too much in the game :) ..so I decide to try something a little "tricky" with my first CoC - CI character...


This is my current passive tree, around level 60, pretty basic CoC dagger passive tree i think, anyway any advice will be great ;)



And this will be my future-finished tree:




I work now on a Tabula Rasa cuz i need a 6L chest with: Spectral Throw + LMP + PCoC + CoC + Desecrate + Detonate Dead


My other gear, cheap/selfound:




...any feedback or advice will be great!! ;)

Well I don't play CI so I don't have any input on your tree. But I do have a pure eva tank with zero investment into offense and can tell you that this skill set can work well together. She usses Double Strike to proc DD but the idea is the same. I do have some suggestions on your setup though.

Try Desecrate/Trap/Multi-Trap on manual cast. You can also use

Giving you the option for 5 link traps as well.
That's 3 corpses per trap and 3 traps per cast and 3 casts per cooldown. In a matter of seconds you can have 27 corpses to explode. This will allow you to use a 4-5 link with ST/CoC/GMP or LMP/DD. This opens up options for way better chest.
On the other hand you have 3 corpses per cast and 3 casts per cooldown when you just link it to CoC and requires at least a 5 link, or higher.

I have also noticed that you don't need nearly as much crit chance, when compared to other CoC builds, with this setup since you only have a finite amount of things to proc. My Des/DD ranger only has 40% crit chance and runs no charges. But, I am always needing more corpses to explode.

Two builds you could check on to some guidelines;

Typical dagger ST CoCer

TK's CoC Crit Shadow aka THE WELDER

And new donaldF's desecrate build;

http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/786517

They round up many mechanics that may interest you, but as your idea is pretty new without field test you know nothing.

Btw why CI? Name me one advantage. Shield will cost you throng of chc loss. Your tree seems messy. Going all way to iron reflexes? Why, do you think that you will amass eva with tabula? Rather get acro. Safer bet, overall better damage mitigation.


Btw you call voll's dev cheap ? :) Check the prices of that thingy again plse :)

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Juggla1570 wrote:

Well I don't play CI so I don't have any input on your tree. But I do have a pure eva tank with zero investment into offense and can tell you that this skill set can work well together. She usses Double Strike to proc DD but the idea is the same. I do have some suggestions on your setup though.

Try Desecrate/Trap/Multi-Trap on manual cast. You can also use

Giving you the option for 5 link traps as well.
That's 3 corpses per trap and 3 traps per cast and 3 casts per cooldown. In a matter of seconds you can have 27 corpses to explode. This will allow you to use a 4-5 link with ST/CoC/GMP or LMP/DD. This opens up options for way better chest.
On the other hand you have 3 corpses per cast and 3 casts per cooldown when you just link it to CoC and requires at least a 5 link, or higher.

I have also noticed that you don't need nearly as much crit chance, when compared to other CoC builds, with this setup since you only have a finite amount of things to proc. My Des/DD ranger only has 40% crit chance and runs no charges. But, I am always needing more corpses to explode.

Ty! i'm gonna try this "trap version", I know Deerstalker (my 1st char it's a trapper) but maybe i prefer put the trap setup in a "normal" item cuz they don't really help with CI, and 5L trap can't add some helpful thing like more corpses or reduced cooldown... :/

I will also try Spell Totem with Desecrate, maybe with Faster Cast and Totem Elemental Res... but I'm afraid that totem will be too much squishy with no one "passive totem" points...

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Thorien_Kell wrote:

Two builds you could check on to some guidelines;
Typical dagger ST CoCer

TK's CoC Crit Shadow aka THE WELDER

And new donaldF's desecrate build;

http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/786517

They round up many mechanics that may interest you, but as your idea is pretty new without field test you know nothing.

Btw why CI? Name me one advantage. Shield will cost you throng of chc loss. Your tree seems messy. Going all way to iron reflexes? Why, do you think that you will amass eva with tabula? Rather get acro. Safer bet, overall better damage mitigation.


Btw you call voll's dev cheap ? :) Check the prices of that thingy again plse :)

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Rhadoo wrote:

After a "lucky" drop I start to foolin' around with a CoC character..

Voll's was my "lucky" drop... :P

I think CI work good with CoC build... build a good ES to survive require less points in passive then a life version i think, then I can save my passive for DPS thing or anything else will help in the future... and it's possible to reach a pretty good ES even with a Tabula Rasa, so I can try different setup with no extreme waste of Chrome Orbs...

I took Iron Reflex to take avantage of Grace aura... pure eva maybe it's good, but i think armour mitigate the damage better, expecially the "white trash mob" hits...

If I had a Shav chest I can try low-life version, with Pain Attunement (supa DPS) and one another aura on my life pool, that's will be amazing, but Shav it's not cheap... and the problem of this build it's: I don't really know if the damage of these skill scales Well in the late game like high map... even in party, when the life of the mob I detonate don't scale but remain the same like I play solo... and that's it's a little pain... :(



...definetly i think the big problem of this "setup" it's the cooldown of Desecrate...really really painful... :/

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Rhadoo wrote:

...definetly i think the big problem of this "setup" it's the cooldown of Desecrate...really really painful... :/

This is why you put it on multi trap. Otherwise you have hardly any corpses to detonate ;) I find that if I cast two sets I can typically wipe out any white pack with just that. And remember that is with zero investment into offense except a few Crit nodes.
And I can maintain DPS by going 2>attack for a couple sec>1>attack for a couple sec>1>attack for a couple sec>ect ...
There is a quick gameplay video >>>HERE<<<. Maybe give you some ideas on how the playstyle feels.