flasks don't recharge fast enough

in a big fight, like Piety or Dominus, they just don't.

you're taking so much damage, you go through them so quickly that you can't kill enough minions to recharge.

other than the various recharge attributes that you can find on gear or the flasks themselves, and jumping through portals, are there any other remedies ?

the best strategy i've found so far is a rejuvenation totem. that thing has saved me a 10% penalty numerous times :-)

but running out of mana in the middle of Dom's second form is a bit of a problem, especially if you need to be able to cast that rejuv totem.

thanks

Life leech and Mana leech support gems (or leech from your gear) should be the primary way you regain life/mana during combat. Flasks i use more for emergency's only, take a crit and your low on life use a flask to pop yourself back up quick. But it's your life/mana leech that should be keeping you topped off most of the time, not your flasks.

Running out of mana? Dude, are you playing as a caster or something?

Play melee, physical damage like 99,9% of PoE players, put some mana leech on your gear and you'll forget that mana even exists in this game. Throw out your mana flasks, get more life flasks, granites, quicksilvers or whatever you want.

Leech is but one strategy, but it's not the only one. I don't use any leech on a few of my characters. Castors with high energy shield don't need leech. Get mana regen high enough and you never run out of mana. Get out of damage for a few seconds and your energy shield fully recharges. For fast hitting attacks, Life Gain on Hit can work better than Leech. There's even a Unique ring that gives mana on hit. A high life pool and regen can be effective as well. A Devouring Totem can work really well too, but I don't think Piety's minions leave a corpse, so wouldn't help there.

As far as flasks go, if critical strikes are a part of your build, the Surgeon prefix gives flask charges when you crit. Or get a mod for faster flask recovery. Killing Piety's portals will help give you charges as well. Besides that, taking a trip to town is another way to fill your flasks.

LOL.

One _very_ important bit of information I should have provided.

It's my trapper having trouble.

However- the advice is still relevant. I probably need to equip a skill that will allow life and/or mana leech to be attached. Certainly worth trying. I have lots of spell damage, and crit, so I should be able to use some sort of AOE to get something back.

Well- trapper's don't suffer from reflect, but we can't leech either. oops.

You aren't using clarity + increased mana regen nodes/gear? And EB if not going CI?

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KG31459 wrote:

You aren't using clarity + increased mana regen nodes/gear? And EB if not going CI?

yeah - you _have_ to use clarity, there's really no choice. don't have EB yet...

mana, of course, eventually charges back up, life is more of a problem.

my traps are _really_ expensive, right now it's quite easy for me to be sitting there doling out a trap at a time waiting for enough mana. and that probably answers my own question.

given where I am, I'll probably need to spec into EB, that will almost certainly solve the mana problem, and then spec more life to make up for the loss of ES.

You can get a lot of increased mana regen from your jewelry and other gear pretty easily and cheaply, too. I mean, it isn't much trouble to double your mana regen that way if you don't have it on gear.

As for staying alive, I like CwDT+Temporal Chains on my trapper. And of course, for EB trappers, you usually want to use MoM, too...

yep. cloak of defiance. but since 70% damage still goes to me, I think that ES is more valuable than a larger mana pool for MoM, unless i'm doing the math wrong...

as for doubling mana regen- well you'd have to double mana - and you can only do that with mana on gear if you have taken a lot of +% mana nodes- which i have not. kenzorz crit trapper used CI and mana regen and I think he had to go into the witch tree to get it. i'm still amazed he was able to maintain mana without running EB.

once I spec EB it's time to see how high a level i can run AA :-)

however will all that be enough when you're sitting next to dom with empty flasks and your life draining away ?

in particular if your staunching flask is empty, you got a problem. guess i need to bring 2 ;-)

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plasticeyes wrote:

It's my trapper having trouble.

I don't have a lot of experience with Trappers but there's 1 tip i found on the POE Wiki that may help you if your not already doing it.

"When the Trap, Remote Mine, and Spell Totem or Ranged Attack Totem gems are all linked in combination with a skill, the result is a skill that lays a mine. When the mine is detonated, it lays a trap. When the trap is sprung, it casts a totem, which then can cast the linked skill"

That's from this page http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Traps_and_Mines

So for 1 cast you get a Mine, a Trap and a Totem and only pay the mana cost for the Mine.