Righteous Fire without unique items, is it possible?

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Vipermagi wrote:

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Natharias wrote:

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vvooee wrote:

Blood dance shoes with 7frenzy charges gives 7% hp regen and add around 10% from tree and vitality adds up to 20% or so. BUT you need that one unique for it :D

Vitality gives a maximum of 1.65% life regeneration per second, not 20%. Vitality can be buffed to about 3% life regen, at best, depending on items and passive nodes.

Emphasis mine. :) 7 + 10 + 3

Perhaps you should retake English.

The phrase, "...Vitality adds up to...", means that Vitality would be adding the specified amount to something.

The phrase, "...Vitality would raise the total to..." or "...with Vitality, you could get up to...", means that the specified total includes Vitality.

By the way, what do you mean by, "Emphasis mine."?

I'll let you know if you can get around not having a shavronne's. I started out thinking of righteous fire but decided early on that I didn't want to plan on getting up to above level 90 to get all the nodes I wanted, so am switching it to try low life. I'll never have a shavronne's, so was hoping to just be able to get my chaos resists up high enough. I can easily get 33 resist from the tree and it is possible to get another 12 there is I wanted to include life with it. But running with 2 amethyst rings and a getting a bit more resistance on some other pieces should let me get pretty high. I'm just starting Cruel, but I'll let you know how successful the approach can be.

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Natharias wrote:

Perhaps you should retake English.

The phrase, "...Vitality adds up to...", means that Vitality would be adding the specified amount to something.

The phrase, "...Vitality would raise the total to..." or "...with Vitality, you could get up to...", means that the specified total includes Vitality.

By the way, what do you mean by, "Emphasis mine."?

He probably meant an emphasis on up, like when you say '5 and 3 adds up to 8'. It's correct english but you really need to be certain on what the emphasis is on.
I instantly thought of that since it made no sense otherwise.

to answer the question, "no"

just as you can't really low life without shavs because the game will throw 40 geeked out chaos snakes backed up with 20 chaos bomb throwers at you as soon as you try.

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Vipermagi wrote:

"Emphasis mine" refers to me adding bold or italics to a quoted post to put emphasis on a word/sentence. I'm clarifying that it's not how it was originally written, and pointing out what I changed and why.


"Blood Dance gives 7% HP regen, add around 10% from tree, and Vitality, adds up to 20% or so."
His writing isn't perfect, but it's very easy to see he knows Vitality in and of itself doesn't add up to 20% ('adding up to' normally revolves around more than one item, for starters). It's not the fault of his writing that you misunderstood.

Ah.

As to his writing, if he phrases something a certain way, I will understand it in that way. If you misplace, forget, or use to many commas or other punctuation you can easily interpret something in a different way.

For instance:

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vvooee wrote:

Blood dance shoes with 7frenzy charges gives 7% hp regen and add around 10% from tree and vitality adds up to 20% or so. BUT you need that one unique for it :D

"...and add around 10% from the tree and vitality adds up to 20% or so."

Due to the lack of commas, the phrase "adds up to 20% or so" is applied to "vitality". Any English teacher will tell you this.

2. "and add around 10% from the tree and vitality, adds up to 20% or so."

With the comma, the phrase in question is separated from "vitality" and completely changes the idea.

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keyarchan wrote:

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Natharias wrote:

Perhaps you should retake English.

The phrase, "...Vitality adds up to...", means that Vitality would be adding the specified amount to something.

The phrase, "...Vitality would raise the total to..." or "...with Vitality, you could get up to...", means that the specified total includes Vitality.

By the way, what do you mean by, "Emphasis mine."?

He probably meant an emphasis on up, like when you say '5 and 3 adds up to 8'. It's correct english but you really need to be certain on what the emphasis is on.
I instantly thought of that since it made no sense otherwise.

I've explained how it is grammatically incorrect.

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mark1030 wrote:

I'll let you know if you can get around not having a shavronne's. I started out thinking of righteous fire but decided early on that I didn't want to plan on getting up to above level 90 to get all the nodes I wanted, so am switching it to try low life. I'll never have a shavronne's, so was hoping to just be able to get my chaos resists up high enough. I can easily get 33 resist from the tree and it is possible to get another 12 there is I wanted to include life with it. But running with 2 amethyst rings and a getting a bit more resistance on some other pieces should let me get pretty high. I'm just starting Cruel, but I'll let you know how successful the approach can be.

If you plan on going without a Shav's, you'll need at least 1k life to be safe and a solid way of replenishing it for certain bosses or fights. I've found that the snakes in Merciless Act III can two-shot you with 0% chaos resistance and about 700 hit points.

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If you plan on going without a Shav's, you'll need at least 1k life to be safe and a solid way of replenishing it for certain bosses or fights. I've found that the snakes in Merciless Act III can two-shot you with 0% chaos resistance and about 700 hit points.

Low life is totally valid without shavs if you have good reactions, use low life instant pots and know the game mechanics.

Don't try this as a first build imo. Or try it out on standard league.

I run a 420hp low life build without shavs on standard and i only recently died to a rare chaos bomb on shocked ground effect, and it was because of my reactions. It has very high gear dependency as a downside.

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Boem wrote:

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If you plan on going without a Shav's, you'll need at least 1k life to be safe and a solid way of replenishing it for certain bosses or fights. I've found that the snakes in Merciless Act III can two-shot you with 0% chaos resistance and about 700 hit points.

Low life is totally valid without shavs if you have good reactions, use low life instant pots and know the game mechanics.

Don't try this as a first build imo. Or try it out on standard league.

I run a 420hp low life build without shavs on standard and i only recently died to a rare chaos bomb on shocked ground effect, and it was because of my reactions. It has very high gear dependency as a downside.

The problem with awesome skill, reaction time, and prior planning is desync. All it takes is a tiny bit to completely kill you.

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Boem wrote:

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If you plan on going without a Shav's, you'll need at least 1k life to be safe and a solid way of replenishing it for certain bosses or fights. I've found that the snakes in Merciless Act III can two-shot you with 0% chaos resistance and about 700 hit points.

Low life is totally valid without shavs if you have good reactions, use low life instant pots and know the game mechanics.

Don't try this as a first build imo. Or try it out on standard league.

I run a 420hp low life build without shavs on standard and i only recently died to a rare chaos bomb on shocked ground effect, and it was because of my reactions. It has very high gear dependency as a downside.

well let's put your "totally valid" inside of the parenthesis it deserves shall we

75% chaos resist is much more achievable now though. You can get a ton in the passive tree.

As long as you don't get Zealot's Oath your regeneration plus the Chaos Resist should be more than enough to ignore chaos damage. Even on 500 life or so.

The curious thing about chaos damage is that its base damage doesn't actually seem to be that high. It's just hard to stack chaos resist, which is why its so scary to a lot of people.