Crit/Evasion archer

Okay this is a little bit trying to do everything as I've never played before, read some guides made sure to hit up life nodes etc. but it seems it's good to build based off a specific set of skills too and as I haven't played I couldn't do that. I'd like thoughts on this. I dumped a lot into crit for knockback, stopped off at Iron Grip to get some extra use out of strength and just tried to hit up most archer benefits while keeping in mind defenses with focus on resistances where I could get them since the build felt very anti physical. (27% lightning, fire, 42% cold, and 12% chaos)

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http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgIAr-vn6vkzlwYtgxmKm7XDOussGYZ9W8pKQ9ID2ypNFSCSzeKArEfEotwVq9Kn1P7Im40ILhmO7YOhpBsBGf4V8Plj51Qk_dUAbWwFtbTFC5Ga8QiJkyVdaMEzsTCGznfU-VaNv974pHjB1VFHb_I51KCfMwz-KxnV_94wfH8rMfp298qpLOm0GuLLJT8_J26qTZLK0xm0-rHqYtaKapPAD90Nqwtyw1s9t-IkpbVITLHOSMuC037MBp8nX5hZbR2-Mn6quKp_hxlTNTZ7y0Fyu73mPs9te1VLJpU6WAR-


Also question, why do people stack over 100% crit rate, not sure how that works but I'm sure it's with good reason.
Last edited by Beerstein#4957 on Jan 24, 2013, 12:25:59 AM
Have they fixed evasion? I wouldn't make an evasion build unless you get the keystone that switches evasion into armor. Evasion is pretty trash, sure you can dodge attacks, but if you get hit it's pretty much a one shot kill since you have no armor to mitigate the damage.

I don't know if I'd get iron grip, you won't be stacking alot of strength as an archer and I believe it won't affect your skills that much.

Also the % to crit rate just affects your flat crit rate. Say you have a 5% chance of getting crits normally, but you have 100% to crit rate from skill nodes. This means that you have just doubled your crit rate from 5% to 10%
Ah I read that all bows are 5% so I can see why people stack well over 100%, is the base crit rate increased by modifiers on items IE bows? Also thanks for the advice, wasn't sure I'd get a response and I'm pretty open to changes, I didn't realize how bad evasion is. I guess I could kill off that mini path heading out the bottom of the initial skills and reroute it to Iron Reflexes. I don't like the idea of killing so much evasion just to convert evasion to armor but not sure I see any other options that would salvage the build. 74 strength plus any random modifiers I get stuck with that give strength felt worth the small detour to Iron Grip. Felt like a lot for only 3 skill points which involved +10 dex.

On top of that I missed 1 point off on a 30 dex though and not sure if it's worth sacrificing an 8% life for a +30 dex. Leather and steel is clearly a necessity with Iron Reflexes.
Last edited by Beerstein#4957 on Jan 24, 2013, 1:22:16 AM
Try and make a 85 point build, its a bit more realistic as far as obtainability is concerned.

You don't need to invest so much into accuracy, the benfit you'll get from 300+ Dex as well as item mods should be enough.

74 Str isn't enough to warrant the trip up to Iron Grip (you're only getting an extra 15% phys damage)

The ranger is in reasonable distance of about 200-230% crit from passives, you can get another 100% from the Critical Strike Chance support gem, a flat 5-9% from the Critical Weakness curse, and another 80-100%+ from the quiver, amulet and certain uniques (like Maligaro's Virtuosity).

You could pick up one of those Savant nodes to help meet the requirements for using curses/auras if your gear can't cover it.

Hope that helps somewhat.

EDIT: Just noticed you haven't invested anything to help maintain usage of skills. You're right next to Mana Flows and Deep Thoughts for more mana + regen, and then you could use the Mana Leech support gem as well as Mana Leech on gear to keep your mana up.
Last edited by Hojirozame#7390 on Jan 24, 2013, 1:49:11 AM
It does, thanks. I picked up mental acuity on the pre planned build(Felt fits better than savant for what I'm doing)

Anyways I went for a 35 point taking your advice as I did say I am open to it and actually killed a ton of evasion to do it.

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http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgIBr-vn6vkzlwYtgxmKm7XEotwVq9Kn1P7Im42hpBsBGf4V8Plj51Qk_dUAbWwFtbTFC5Ga8QiJkyVdaMEzsTCGznfU-VaNv1FHb_I51KCfMwz-KxnV_94wfH8rMfp298qp1oq1SKq4qn-HGVM1veY-z217VUtNknfXdEEUdQ6tKaWMNizpJpXdDfzFVvrTfgguGY7tg2egh3ZKfUyxzkjLgsS41fhuaWqTwA8=


Edit: tweaked it, got mana flows, can't find deep thoughts. Ah nvm I found it but it's kind of far away when limiting to 85 points.

I'm thinking of chopping off the whole top left line though from the strength node up and looking to spend it elsewhere (ore even intel node up and replace the resistances with the same set down bottom). I have other spots where I can replace the life ones also and that'd free up a few more points I think for better uses.
Last edited by Beerstein#4957 on Jan 24, 2013, 2:16:19 AM
Okay I chopped the top off and went a little crazy on the rest, instead of deep thoughts I saw a similar thing for less points down bottom (little tri circle) also was able to spend on movement speed, put the crit down bottom right instead of way up top, managed to fill out more life nodes elsewhere and popped back up into the 45% skill duration (not sure how useful it is but it seems very useful) All that and still 85.

Spoiler
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgIBr-vEotwVq9Kn1P7Im40V8Plj51Qk_dUABbW0xQuRmvEIiZMlXWjBM7Ewhs531PlWjb9RR2_yOdSgnzMM_isZ1f_eMHx_KzH6dvfKqdaKqriqf4cZveY-z02Sd9d0QRR1Dq0ppSzp3Q38xVb6034ILhmO7YNnoId2Sn3EuNX4bmlqk8APWz0kpbfiOlgEfo19AdH0-KJABflxsEQNkrvB2CF2FSBfmFltHb4=


The main thing though is since I'm on more buff nodes and less dex nodes my dex has dropped below 300. Plus side is my line ends right in front of those evasion nodes for post 85 skill points though 270 dex does seem low.

Edit, holy crap I also cut out so many intel nodes I'm down to 14 argggh! Okay last oen was better had more intel AND more dex...and more strength lol

Okay so this is best I got

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http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgIBr-vn6vkzlwYtgxmKm7XEoqfU_sibjRXw-WPnVCT91QBtbAW1tMULkZrxCImTJV1owTOxMIbOd9T5Vo2_UUdv8jnUoJ8zDP4rGdX_3jB8fysx-nb3yqnWirVIqriqf4cZUzW95j7PbXtVS02Sd9d0QRR1Dq0ppYw2LOkmld0N_MVW-tN-CC4Zju2DZ6CHdkp9TLHOSMuCxLjV-G5papPADwX5cbBEDSF2krs=


Not sure if 16% max mana or +60 intel is better though I'd imagine 60 intel is. Oh game just finished downloading yay.

Other option:

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http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgIBp9T-yJuNFfD5Y-dUJP3VAG1sBbW0xQuRmvEIiZMlXWjBM7Ewhs531PlWjb9RR2_yOdSgnzMM_isZ1f_eMHx_KzH6dvfKqdaKtUiquKp_hxlte1VLTZJ313RBFHUOrSmljDYs6SaV3Q38xVb6034ILhmO7YNnoId2Sn3EuNX4bmlqk8APBfnrFDWSTsjuDsSikAro1ls9JKW34pcGD6vndN72zeo6s73mPs8=


Main problem now is what order I do it in xD
Last edited by Beerstein#4957 on Jan 24, 2013, 3:00:38 AM

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