Selling and buying question (and gems)

OK, so I get that we don't have a universal currency...
But what I don't understand is why when I offer to sell, say, 10 scrolls of Wisdom, I get 1 scrap offered.
Shouldn't I be able to get a reasonable offer?
Too clarify:

For 3 Wisdom scroll, I should be offered 1 portal, that's the accepted exchange rate.

Going through the sellers inventory, and PURCHASING items using my items nets me a much, MUCH greater reward then simply dropping my gear and selling it for whatever.

THAT'S the bit I don't understand...

What use is there in collecting scrolls when you have, say 50? None at all?

On Skill Gems:
Can you do anything with ones you don't want, other then sell them for a pittance, can you merge a number into one random skill gem, or support gem?

Finally, why aren't Buy Items, and Sell Items available on the one screen, with a little tab at the top so you can switch between them, seems awkward to leave and re-engage the vendor just to switch between buying and selling.
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Last edited by Yxalitis#6223 on Jan 11, 2013, 8:02:40 PM
On your first point, the amount of scrolls of wisdom that drop late game would give you too much if you could sell a stack for anything decent. You will have stacks upon stacks if you pick them all up. Honestly, say you're farming Fellshrine, if you pick up every scroll of wisdom you are really wasting time. They drop in abundance.

On the skill gems, save them. You never know when you will need them on another toon or a new build you are preparing for. I can't tell you how many times I've realized that I've sold my gems without thinking about the future. If you are high level and find low gems, realize that you won't be able to use gems you've leveled with your character, so you will always need low, new gems for your new characters.

Third point, that's just a development thing. Is it really that big of a pain? You'll get used to it.

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Selling: its an issue of minor priority, of course its beyond all logic that you cant (at least) have a 1:1 rate for the id scrolls (so that you would get 1 back as you sell one)

Skill gems: there will be more recipes implemented later which adds more uses to gems you dont need elsewhere.

Selling UI: just as pmc said, may be improved later on for better usability.
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Keep all gems you find with added quality.

Gems traded in with +40 quality aggregate give you a GPC...
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Last edited by Benalishhero#0779 on Jan 11, 2013, 6:52:48 AM
sorry double post >.>
Last edited by MonstaMunch#6519 on Jan 11, 2013, 6:43:01 AM
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Yxalitis wrote:
But what I don't understand is why when I offer to sell, say, 10 scrolls of Wisdom, I get 1 scrap offered.
Shouldn't I be able to get a reasonable offer?

No. It's like irl, if you buy a car from a used car dealer one day for $10k, then the next day take it to sell to another dealer, he will offer you $5k for it. However, if you go and sell it privately and cut out the middleman, you'll be able to get a more reasonable price.

Your best bet is to find people who are farming for alts. They use lots of wisdom scrolls for that. Also ignore the advice someone gave about how you get too many....

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Yxalitis wrote:
What use is there in collecting scrolls when you have, say 50? None at all?

If you have more than you need, pick up blue items, ID them, turn them into alts. People will give you roughly a gcp for every 50 you can sell, and it's something you don't have to go out of your way or incur any real extra time to do.

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Yxalitis wrote:
On Skill Gems:
Can you do anything with ones you don't want, other then sell them for a pittance, can you merge a number into one random skill gem, or support gem?


If they are quality gems, you can trade them at the vendor for gcp. 40% total quality between any number of gems = 1gcp. A single 20% gem will also get you a gcp, though you'd get far more by selling it to a player.

Non quality gems can be used either to trade with other people for gems you need, or very very early game on a new server, it can be useful to trade them at the vendor for ele res rings. A gem + an iron ring = an ele res ring. Most of the time, that would be a ridiculous idea, but for example when racing and you just need a quick cold res boost for merveil, it can be very useful if the right rings haven't dropped by that point.

Last edited by MonstaMunch#6519 on Jan 11, 2013, 6:44:25 AM
Vendor recipes can be found here

http://en.pathofexilewiki.com/wiki/Vendor_Recipes

AS Monsta said though gems with quality you would be better trading for instead of vendoring you'll achieve much better value from other players in terms of a return.
Those who beat their swords into ploughshares, will plough for those who have not.
If you have huge stacks of Scrolls of Wisdom, you can buy a Portal Scroll for 3 of them at the vendor in act 1 normal. Then you can buy 1 Transmutation Orb for 3 Portal Scrolls at the same vendor. Etc...

So if you really have a lot of these scrolls you can transform them to higher currency. But keep in mind that you can only buy one item at a time, no stacks. I tested it yesterday and ended up with a lot of clicking and transforming 200 Scrolls of Wisdom into 9 Transmutation Orbs. :D
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pinback wrote:
If you have huge stacks of Scrolls of Wisdom, you can buy a Portal Scroll for 3 of them at the vendor in act 1 normal. Then you can buy 1 Transmutation Orb for 3 Portal Scrolls at the same vendor. Etc...

So if you really have a lot of these scrolls you can transform them to higher currency. But keep in mind that you can only buy one item at a time, no stacks. I tested it yesterday and ended up with a lot of clicking and transforming 200 Scrolls of Wisdom into 9 Transmutation Orbs. :D


No offense but this somewhat counter intuitive since using the wisdom scrolls to id magic/rares will net you alteration shards and the exchange rate for an identified item is roughly 2 shards per scroll for the sake of easy numbers...it's almost certainly considerably more if you account for id-ing and vendoring rares. At a minimum it returns at least 400% better than up-trading scrolls.

The math is only ball park, but close enough
Those who beat their swords into ploughshares, will plough for those who have not.
Of all of it I would just love a random gem recipe using non quality gems. I have the worst luck with drops to the point its faster (maybe not cheaper depending on currency drops on new toon) for me to take a toon through the first difficulty for gems that drop there if I need them. I mean I have spent a ton of time in the game and only ONCE have I had a non quest gem drop for me, that being elemental hit. Thats it. Hell I havent even had something more popular like clarity or devotion drop. So I honestly do think a random gem recipe or even increasing the drop rates alittle is a good idea. With the wipe comming up, for someone with my luck, I have to plan my builds around NOT getting certain key gems. Chain for example. If its not nerfed its going to be the most wanted gem most likely. I'll never pay what they will go for for the first few months and I know with my luck I'll never find one. But I would be more than willing to dump the 2-300 basic quest gems I'll have drop trying to get one randomly that way.

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