Apeiron's Proof that sustaining RF on Life with pure regen works again viable.

Note / Disclaimer:
while calculating i will do anything failsave and always choose the worst case. The noted PassivTree is not the only one possible. Its only one of many. There are Builds out there which are absolutly viable (300% life+ and DMG nodes)[/quote]

Math:
1000 Life (Life amout does not matter since it scales percentage wise)

0.9 * Life * (100 - FireMaxResi) / 100) = DmgTaken

FireMaxResi = 75 + 2 + Aura + 8(Rise of the Phoenix)

Aura = 2 * 1.62(Aura Buffs From Passives) = 3(.24)

=> FireMaxResi = 88

=> DmgTaken = 0.9 * 1000 * 0.12 = 108/second

Therefore we need ~ 11% Life Regen to sustain the Damage:

11 - 8.4(from Tree (504% per Minute)) = 2.6% Remaining

=> Vitality(20) 1.65 * 1.62(Aura Buffs From Passives) = 2.67%

=> 11% Dmg/s - 11.07% Life Regen & second ~ 0;

==> Damage Sustainable with a little bit positive regen.

Since we are have all those Aura passives we get 13% reduced reservation which is multiplicative with Reduced mana src=http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Aura

with 2x 40% we end up reserving ~57% Mana while using Eldrich Battery to remove all ES

Conclusion: RF is stable again.

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Greetz from a German Exile to you my fellow Exiles.
Take Care and live long till the Nemesis traps us.

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Your Build with CwDt is broken now? Tell my RF Life Marauder from OpenBeta more about it, he will listen too your QQ. If people would take this Action Role Play Game more serious, they would stop complaining about rebalancing unbalanced mechanics and make better builds.
Last edited by amcapeiron#5757 on Nov 13, 2013, 10:05:44 AM
After they broke life RF with the life + elemental adaptation nerfs, it became possible again pre 1.0.0 with Alpha's Howl(or a +1 all gems weapon) and Empower Gem to boost Purity level, and the 1% life regen that they added in the Ranger update with "Heart of Oak".

Then after 1.0.0, Purity max resists were nerfed, but an extra 1% life regen was added to the tree with the "Shaper" node. A level 22 Purity gave +3% max resists (achievable with Alpha's howl OR Empower, no need for both) and with 9.4% life regen from the tree and RF damage going down from 100% to 90% of your life per second, it was also doable.

Now that Purity of Fire has been added, the max fire res needs only to equal 1.0.0 Purity in order for RF to continue working, with the added bonus of being able to use a +2 fire gems weapon since the gem is classified as a fire gem, whereas Purity is not.

All this is just grabbing all the life regen nodes on the tree and +gem level on aura. Your method of grabbing the aura passives also works however I believe it requires more skill point investment.

I write this as a Kaoms + Rigteous Fire enthusiast.
Last edited by Metavex#5449 on Nov 13, 2013, 9:54:42 AM
I am running a righteous fire build at the moment, it doesn't have the aura buff effect nodes though but it does have 8.4% life regen from the passive tree.

As such it takes ~1% burn damage a second, so it uses blood dance and frenzy charges to gain an additional 4% regen, I could possibly be 5% if I manage to get the frenzy charge near duelist. The build is level 81 and has 5k life and maximum of 820 HP/s regen.

Endurance charges also grant 0.2% regen and there is a total of 6 of them, which are harder to maintain now since I need to level my CoDT gem some more. The new Purity of Fire aura is looking good as it grants +2% max resist at level 11 already so I am hoping it ends up being +3% when fully levelled.

Damage wise it is sufficient, 9k ethereal knives damage with life leech makes it pretty tanky.

I couldn't see your passive tree cause I'm on my phone at the moment, but just makes sure that you don't get inner force cluster, it makes you burn for more damage, I made that mistake in calculations at first.
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Would love to see your build mate. Always wanted to do a Life Based RF, using Ele Equilibrium Ice Nova to lower fire res... that would work right?
Life based RF has always worked.
It was 100% life burn damage before, now it's 90%.

It's the RF Shavronne's builds that got screwed around with, with the added 70% ES burn.
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Last edited by Kenzorz#6970 on Nov 13, 2013, 10:02:29 AM
I yeha it would work. At the Moment iam thinking about a CwDt+ ShockNova + LightPen + Prolif

Build with either Arc + iron Will + Empower or something more casual.

Like Burn them while shockstacked :D

The Point with the Aura Nodes is as far as i understand it that Auras u cast have more effect in general. So this Build would be pretty nice for Groups :)


Edit:
@omgken233
No it has not always worked the way that you could sustain the Damage without Charges or Life Leech in unter 90 Points...
(as far as i know it was not that viable)
Last edited by amcapeiron#5757 on Nov 13, 2013, 10:06:41 AM
I had a full life RF build before and after the changes to RF. It was rather easily done without any aura nodes the moment the new tree was released. Quite effective in PvP with trigger based triple curse as well. At 8k health, it would kill in 1 second if you hit me an triggered.
I hope that Purity of Fire will add at least 4% to maximum fire res, thus being must-have for RF builds.
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VarthDaver wrote:
I had a full life RF build before and after the changes to RF. It was rather easily done without any aura nodes the moment the new tree was released. Quite effective in PvP with trigger based triple curse as well. At 8k health, it would kill in 1 second if you hit me an triggered.


What about PvE?
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I will post my experience with high level Content and my final Build as soon as i have some intel ;)

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