Eldritch Battery

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Sony_Black wrote:


I have a lvl 65 templar using mostly ES+armor hybrid gear (except shield and boots)- i have 2k life and 200ES, if my build would be near EB i would take it (it isn't, but it is stiill an example of a build wich could get better with EB) -> i could put on even more auras (currently i have 3), one could be Determination, resulting in a quite nice armor buff, which would at least partly (if not fully) get me back my lost defense and i think (i haven't done the math) that i would still end with more mana than before (which might not be bad for my char at all - currently i have enough mana, but barely)

EDIT: also IMHO no keystone should be a no brainer for everyone, and also no keystone should bring builds both offensiev and defensive advantages -> EB is clearly one which can take a lot of your defense, but it can bring also a huge DSP boost (also what about for eaxample a build which would prioritise another sort of def and than take EB and e.g. starts using a ES shield as a somewhat bigger mana boost)


That's more of a case where you lose something you don't really want, and aren't invested in at all, in order to get something which you can use. Its certainly a good keystone to take in such a situation, but its a bit of a lame effort in my opinion.

You basically aren't taking EB in order to gain something, and make the most of it. You are taking EB to lose something you don't need (energy shield) and you don't really plan to utilize the keystone any further.

I'm looking for a scenario where you would have something substantial like 1000 energy shield, and then take EB. Even then, once you have EB, you would still be actively seeking out more energy shield. Such a scenario would never arise with this keystone, in my opinion.
Try reading the FT. That sums it up quite succintly.
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Imbalanxd wrote:
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Sony_Black wrote:
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Imbalanxd wrote:
Considering this games current heavy reliance on energy shield, I think its safe to say that it doesn't fit in with any builds really. No effective ones anyway.


Some of the really aura heavy buids seemed quite effective IMHO (i've seen 8+ auras). You just have to plan carefully to have enough life...


In my limited experience and knowledge, I cannot conceive a common scenario where even through the use of multiple auras, eldritch battery would result in more defense, rather than less.

Considering how important energy shield seems to be at the moment, I think the multiple aura approach would work great, up until the point where you are instantly killed.


Try a minion heavy build, possibly even with some totems involved.
I did one before the last reset, it's quite insane. You have like 20 some minions and the enemies never hit you, so when you rock like 7 - 8 auras EB comes in handy.

Add to this that with minions instability your skellies essentially become a nuke spell, summon them on top of a boss, let the boss mercilessly murder them and get blown up.
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Zakaluka wrote:
you're supposed to use EB with some kind of hybrid defense, and focus mostly on the "other" defense type. So if you're ES/ev, and have EB - then you can be an evasion/life caster and get some summons to fix up your weakened defenses.

EB is by very nature a glass cannon talent - it unlocks the mana you need for all the most insane DPS link combos. But you won't actually be wearing pure ES gear with it, nobody actually needs that much mana.


EB might not even be able to cover my mana costs. Unless the regen can go above 480+ second. Haven't tested it.
I have never purposely tried to reach max mana regen. I think I was at like 90-100/sec with my Explosive Arrow EB Witch.

With more skillpoints into ES, mana and regen/mana on gear, I'm guessing somewhere between 200-300 is possible. Maybe more. If you start thinking Ephemeral Edge, Dream Fragments, good rares along with enough points in the tree, I doubt 480/sec will be a problem.

What would you actually need 480/sec for if I might ask? :)
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I love Eldritch Battery. So good for aura stacking with Inner Force. You can still be tanky with EB as long as you stack life, use a mix of armour types and get a large chunk of your mana from Discipline. Your mana pool is so huge you can stack multiple percentage reservation auras to compensate for the loss in defense- such as Determination and Grace and still run Clarity and Purity (and Anger and Wrath). This works well with the templar "Body & Soul" clusters and for Nullification clusters with Iron Reflexes for dex classes like Ranger. My EB Elmental Hit ranger always had 50%+ char sheet DR with Grace and IR even without Determination (which I need more mana to try).

Good builds for EB:

* Summoner: minions benefit greatly from auras

* Elemental damage combat chars: Elemental Hit, Lightning Strike, Lightning Arrow, etc.
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Despite what some uninformed people think, Eldritch Battery is close to being overpowered. I'm doing an EB shock nova witch -- basically, a 5L or 6L shock nova costs truckloads of mana and it's really only possible with EB. Same goes with other skills like lightning arrow.
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I took Eldritch Battery on a Shadow build that focused on Life on Hit. It seemed like a sound decision given that Ghost Reaver is incompatible with LoH, and I could get by with a relatively smaller total "health" pool given that I was returning so much life at any given time. This choice also allowed me to be more creative with Auras and skills than I typically could otherwise, due to all the Mana I had to play around with.

I felt more powerful with EB, but not overpowered because of it. If that makes any sense...

I'm sure there are many other types of builds with little, to possibly no, functional use for any ES, and could benefit from a higher Mana pool. Eldritch Battery fills that role nicely. Whereas there are likely even more builds that would suffer to the point of complete ineffectiveness by incorporating EB.
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Last edited by Directrix#6991 on Dec 21, 2012, 6:25:53 PM

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