General Discussion - Arc Lightning + FCS + Chain build Templar or Witch brainstorming - Forum

... Arc has a damage effectiveness of fifty. Chain reduces damage ridiculously. Some sacrifices are overkill, mate.	Posted by Crossflip#2982 on Dec 18, 2012, 7:40:44 AM Quote this Post
4 months? Chris has stated that it will probably take longer than 6 months to get to level 90. Have fun with that... :D Still alive.. are we?	Posted by Blockhead#0767 on Dec 18, 2012, 7:45:40 AM Quote this Post
" Blockhead wrote: 4 months? Chris has stated that it will probably take longer than 6 months to get to level 90. Have fun with that... :D The last Q&A he did on Krips stream leads me to believe that it's possible to reach level 90 within 4 months easily. He did state that he doesn't expect people to reach MAX level within 7 - 9 months though. " anubite wrote: With elderitch battery (and inner force) you can upwards of up to 2000 mana (or even way, way more than this). However, % reserved auras are going to chew into most of that. You can combat this with % reserved passives and reduced mana cost support, and it's possible to run 6 - 8 auras at once, but let me try to persuade you - tempest shield is not worth it. Tempest shield is only good when it has added lightning damage, elemental proliferation and increased critical chance on it. Those supports modify the % reservation cost of the skill, making it take 70% of your mana or so. If you don't support tempest shield with those supports, it's very lack luster! Haste is okay. If you're running a lightning build, I would say, elderitch battery isn't a bad idea. But limit yourself to haste, discipline, grace and purity. I don't think you need any other auras than that if you're a lightning caster. I started leveling the Templar version of this build and checked out Tempest Shield. I agree it's pretty awful and the amount of reserve is puts on your mana pool is ridiculous. I won't be using that. I may try working totems into this build and use Arc on them as well. New tree I'm going to work out is one with Elderitch Battery + Inner Focus with the 2 totems keystone. Lets see what happens! " Crossflip wrote: ... Arc has a damage effectiveness of fifty. Chain reduces damage ridiculously. Some sacrifices are overkill, mate. Yes, Arc does do decreased damage with each jump, but even still adding a further jump onto Arc will only serve to increase its damage, not lower it as there was nothing to lower. Last edited by Rainbowvomit#4965 on Dec 18, 2012, 3:11:53 PM	Posted by Rainbowvomit#4965 on Dec 18, 2012, 3:10:53 PM Quote this Post
I played around with arc till the last passive reset. It really isn't a spam spell. If you want a lightning caster your spam spell is spark, arc if for specific targeting or totems. Compared to spark, arc's mana is just to high and damage too low to compete. It is however glorious on totems, and you won't need any supports with it. I ran a dual arc totem witch with light pen, item quality and item rarity on the totems, then sat back and cast curses. Really never had to cast anything else. It was a CI build with Purity, Disp, and grace without any real mana problems. clarity is best left at a low lvl or just completely avoided for spam casters, it just eats too much mana. As previously said haste is crap for casters as well. I would also caution against planning aura heavy builds until you get enough reduced mana cost support gems to really make it work. They seem to be much harder to come by since last push. If you're hell bent on spamming arc, I'd say go dual totems, dual curses, and then spam arc +lightning pen + chain + faster cast. You could do it with less, but the damage is low, cast time is high, and you're not spreading shocked the way spark does, which again is why arc really needs a boost to be viable as a main nuke. Use disp, grace (or the armor one if you can find it), and purity if you can take the mana hit and you'll be fine. Rest of the aura's really don't add anything for a caster. IF you plan on using a shield, then yes I'd try to squeeze in tempest shield for the extra block, again problems with finding reduced mana cost supports. I stopped using shields on casters a while back because the dps from dual wielding is so much better/seems easier to get a good off hand vs shields with decent dmg mods.	Posted by Rahabs#5323 on Dec 18, 2012, 3:40:41 PM Quote this Post
" Rahabs wrote: I played around with arc till the last passive reset. It really isn't a spam spell. If you want a lightning caster your spam spell is spark, arc if for specific targeting or totems. Compared to spark, arc's mana is just to high and damage too low to compete. It is however glorious on totems, and you won't need any supports with it. I ran a dual arc totem witch with light pen, item quality and item rarity on the totems, then sat back and cast curses. Really never had to cast anything else. It was a CI build with Purity, Disp, and grace without any real mana problems. clarity is best left at a low lvl or just completely avoided for spam casters, it just eats too much mana. As previously said haste is crap for casters as well. I would also caution against planning aura heavy builds until you get enough reduced mana cost support gems to really make it work. They seem to be much harder to come by since last push. If you're hell bent on spamming arc, I'd say go dual totems, dual curses, and then spam arc +lightning pen + chain + faster cast. You could do it with less, but the damage is low, cast time is high, and you're not spreading shocked the way spark does, which again is why arc really needs a boost to be viable as a main nuke. Use disp, grace (or the armor one if you can find it), and purity if you can take the mana hit and you'll be fine. Rest of the aura's really don't add anything for a caster. IF you plan on using a shield, then yes I'd try to squeeze in tempest shield for the extra block, again problems with finding reduced mana cost supports. I stopped using shields on casters a while back because the dps from dual wielding is so much better/seems easier to get a good off hand vs shields with decent dmg mods. Thanks for the great reply. Lots of insight. I'm really hell bent on using Arc as my main nuke (Trying to make a D2 sorc so hard). That said, I was watching krips stream last night and we was just messing around with abilities + spell cast totems. Once he got to Arc I knew I had to have it. (How do you link a spell to a totem by the way? - do I just need Spell Totem and then link it like a support gem?) I really like the idea of using Tempest Shield, but it seems really lack luster. I plan on using a shield either way for the survivability, but who knows. Might just end up using a witch off-hand. I've got plenty of time come open beta to mess with builds. So far I know I want Arc involved some how. Guess well see what happens.	Posted by Rainbowvomit#4965 on Dec 19, 2012, 3:40:15 AM Quote this Post
Spell totem is a support gem, just add it in a chain with whatever attack spell you want. Btw, witch off hands are shields aka tempest works on em.	Posted by Rahabs#5323 on Dec 21, 2012, 1:20:02 AM Quote this Post
" Rahabs wrote: Spell totem is a support gem, just add it in a chain with whatever attack spell you want. Btw, witch off hands are shields aka tempest works on em. Oh. That's cool, didn't know that. (About the witch off-hands working as shields).	Posted by Rainbowvomit#4965 on Dec 21, 2012, 3:44:29 PM Quote this Post
When Chris said "4 months" he was talking to Kripp and specifically mentioned "no lifers" in a sentence before it, or two. Unless you intend on quitting school/work and playing POE every day for weeks on end, try a little longer than four months. My Keystone Ideas: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/744282 Last edited by anubite#0701 on Dec 21, 2012, 4:11:31 PM	Posted by anubite#0701 on Dec 21, 2012, 4:11:23 PM Alpha Member Quote this Post