Avatar of fire and lava lash

It may have been asked already but i went through a few threads and didnt see the question asked.

How does avatar of fire and lava lash work together?

to be more specific does the 30% increased fire damage with weapons apply before avatar of fire or after.

so would it be 50% of physical damage is converted to fire damage then 30% increased fire damage with weapons or the other way around.

same question but with Catalyse(24% increased elemental damage with weapons)
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Bump I'd also like to know this.
There's no "before or after" aspect with damage conversions, all damage increases apply to both unconverted and converted damage. If your unmodifier weapon damage was 100 physical damage, you had 50% increased physical damage, Lava Lash (30% incresed fire damage with weapons) and Avatar of Fire (50% physical damage converted to fire, deal no physical damage), the damage calculation would be as follows:

Physical part: 100 * (1 + 0.5) = 150
Avatar of Fire: 150 * 0.5 = 75
Lava Lash: 75 * (1 + 0.3) = 97.5

For more reading:

http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Damage_conversion
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Alhoon wrote:
There's no "before or after" aspect with damage conversions, all damage increases apply to both unconverted and converted damage. If your unmodifier weapon damage was 100 physical damage, you had 50% increased physical damage, Lava Lash (30% incresed fire damage with weapons) and Avatar of Fire (50% physical damage converted to fire, deal no physical damage), the damage calculation would be as follows:

Physical part: 100 * (1 + 0.5) = 150
Avatar of Fire: 150 * 0.5 = 75
Lava Lash: 75 * (1 + 0.3) = 97.5

Nope nope nope. All Increased and Reduced modifiers are applied at the same stage. Rule of thumb:
Damage Based On -> Conversion -> Increased+Reduced -> More -> Less

100 Base Physical damage, 50% Converted to Fire
50 Base Phys and 50 Base Fire damage

50% Increased damage for the Physical portion:
50 * (1 + (50/100)) = 75 Total Physical damage

Converted Damage benefits from source-damage bonuses too, so 50% and 30% for the Fire portion:
50 * (1 + (50/100) + (30/100)) = 90 Total Fire damage

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