R.I.P Cleave you will be missed

Cleave: The dual wielding penalty for Cleave is now multiplicative and includes elemental damage.


This means in practice for physical cleavers roughly 30% less dmg. This is a gigantic nerf; cleave is no longer viable for endgame. Reave is far better if you know how to play.


As a player who both had ele and physical cleaver, I bid you farewell and thank you for the good times we had.

yep R.I.P cleave...strong ? yeah OP? what have u been smoking son.

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DirkAustin wrote:

It was OP as hell.

Not really. Shield + 1-hand phys weapon (read: soul taker) builds were op as hell. And RF low-life shavronnes was op as hell.

Physical cleavers were very strong in endgame, but Reavers were on par if not stronger XD.

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DirkAustin wrote:

It was OP as hell.

Can't tell if serious or not... Without cleave, there would of literally been no melee builds around.

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MadBro_ wrote:

yep R.I.P cleave...strong ? yeah OP? what have u been smoking son.

I've seen some vids of Phys Cleavers faceplanting high end maps like they are early content. I have a cleaver and honestly this was probably warranted. I think Reave is actually better now.

cleave was OP as shit, nerf was expected.

The only thing changing is this dual-wield penalty, right? So weapon + shield builds won't be affected at all. Seems like those should still be usable.

dat daemon hand cleave effect <<

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Hodari wrote:

The only thing changing is this dual-wield penalty, right? So weapon + shield builds won't be affected at all. Seems like those should still be usable.

There is no point in using cleave unless you are going to dual-wield it. There are other better options for 1-handers.