can it be...that arctic armor is the only defense you need

can it be that arctic armor can be my only defense mechanism

i made an ice nova spammer with insane manareg for his lvl iam only lvl 43 and can mantain a lvl 10 artic armor even running 120 mana/sec drain ( i know the lightning warp trick thx)

i have close to 20 or 30 armor and take close to 0 dmg from same lvl apes and i didnt take any dmg from ele reflect when i hit them with fire

it is really hard to make the next lvl of AA work for you but when you get it running the benefit is great

is there some guy out there running a 18-20 AA and can tell me if it is still awesome in endgame ?

so far iam really impressed i even could take brutus cruel hits and i only run 1k life

Hello,


I can't tell about physical attacks because i use immortal call, but fire AND fire/physical attacks will never harm you with an AA of level 14 and +

before patch 11. i used to run an AA 16 ( i had to scour it from level 17 because i switched a lot of gear and lost some mana regen ), Well guess what ? A fire dog from CREMATORIUM ( map level 76! ) was doing 0 dmg to me..

(To sup up an AA will make you immune to fire ( unless you have low life, you will get ignited ))

As for pure non fire attacks, i don't know.

I have a witch in the late 70s who runs it all the time at lvl13. I think running it at lvl20 and being able to move without degenning mana, maybe it possible but if it is it must be extremely difficult.

I have about 4-5k armour beneath the arctic. I take virtually no damage for what I call small arms fire in areas up to about lvl68 or so. Average white mobs are a joke, but when you get a nasty elite or a substantially increased physical damage aura pack things get ugly and you take massive spikes of damage.

Because its a flat number reduction im guessing (figures just made up for example sake) you might take 80% of the damage off a regular guy hitting, but then someone hitting 5x as hard youre only taking off like 16%. That means youll be taking over 20x the damage from that hit you would normally take from a white mob. Armour works different but has a similar falling off with bigger hits. Endurance charges are a flat % of the hit, regardless of size.

A combination of armour, granite flask, endurance charges and arctic armour is definitely a very survivable setup for endgame, but while I havent tried running a lvl18+ permanently just from my experience with the damage spikes at the end of merciless and lower level maps I wouldnt trust arctic armour on its own to keep me safe from seriously heavy hitting physical damage rares/bosses in higher level maps.

I may be wrong on everything though as its built on presumptions and less than scientific testing.

And important note : Inner force increasse the mana consumption of AA, i never knew how it affected it though.

i run it with every character who's not IR and is not melee (in that case they use the blood magic gem and low mana regen), basically every spell caster wich can go for manaregen.

I have around 228 manaregen/sec with my mage and she goes all the time running with a 17 lvl AA.
Also nice to know is increasing your speed doesnt increase the mana cost.
So the quality gem and very good speed boots are a must .

About the power of the spell, i tried it in 72 maps and lower , i can say that it's still powerful , i have around 200 armour and 2k life , a joke, and still i die like once a week (if i dont go around smoking and careless like a dumb freak :)

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fraz81 wrote:

About the power of the spell, i tried it in 72 maps and lower , i can say that it's still powerful , i have around 200 armour and 2k life , a joke, and still i die like once a week (if i dont go around smoking and careless like a dumb freak :)

really ?! I thought i was the only one who would do that.. Do you have Evasion/ES/dodge/block/Other ?

You can answer me by PM if you want to stay in topic. ( i really want to talk about it;))

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Inexium wrote:

Hello,


I can't tell about physical attacks because i use immortal call, but fire AND fire/physical attacks will never harm you with an AA of level 14 and +

before patch 11. i used to run an AA 16 ( i had to scour it from level 17 because i switched a lot of gear and lost some mana regen ), Well guess what ? A fire dog from CREMATORIUM ( map level 76! ) was doing 0 dmg to me..

(To sup up an AA will make you immune to fire ( unless you have low life, you will get ignited ))

As for pure non fire attacks, i don't know.

a firedog is a peculiar thing though because they do extremely little damage per hit, rather its the cast speed of that fire and the fact its overlapping multiple projectiles of it on you, effectively tripling its already substantial cast speed that rapes so hard. So when you start mitigating flat damage per hit you might be taking off 99% of the damage each one is doing to you, so it doesnt matter youre getting hit 20 times per second with nothing. That doesnt work though when a monster is doing a similar amount of dps with a slow, heavy attack.

its more the physical side of things where theres a lot of this, so I think backing it up with enduring cry and possibly immortal call is probably a good idea.

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Snorkle_uk wrote:

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Inexium wrote:

Hello,


I can't tell about physical attacks because i use immortal call, but fire AND fire/physical attacks will never harm you with an AA of level 14 and +

before patch 11. i used to run an AA 16 ( i had to scour it from level 17 because i switched a lot of gear and lost some mana regen ), Well guess what ? A fire dog from CREMATORIUM ( map level 76! ) was doing 0 dmg to me..

(To sup up an AA will make you immune to fire ( unless you have low life, you will get ignited ))

As for pure non fire attacks, i don't know.

a firedog is a peculiar thing though because they do extremely little damage per hit, rather its the cast speed of that fire and the fact its overlapping multiple projectiles of it on you, effectively tripling its already substantial cast speed that rapes so hard. So when you start mitigating flat damage per hit you might be taking off 99% of the damage each one is doing to you, so it doesnt matter youre getting hit 20 times per second with nothing. That doesnt work though when a monster is doing a similar amount of dps with a slow, heavy attack.

its more the physical side of things where theres a lot of this, so I think backing it up with enduring cry and possibly immortal call is probably a good idea.

I can relate. I tried to face tank a vaal smash with IC + AA = Death. ( cuz i had ridiculous low amount of life )
With enough fire res and IC you can face it though.

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fraz81 wrote:

i run it with every character who's not IR and is not melee (in that case they use the blood magic gem and low mana regen), basically every spell caster wich can go for manaregen.

I have around 228 manaregen/sec with my mage and she goes all the time running with a 17 lvl AA.
Also nice to know is increasing your speed doesnt increase the mana cost.
So the quality gem and very good speed boots are a must .

About the power of the spell, i tried it in 72 maps and lower , i can say that it's still powerful , i have around 200 armour and 2k life , a joke, and still i die like once a week (if i dont go around smoking and careless like a dumb freak :)

can you link your gear and tree plz

230 reg is pretty impressive

if you cheat the manreg via lightningwarp would the movementspeed from a quality AA taken into account in terms of the lightning warp delay?

270 mr here : http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/458776/page/4 ;) ( don't forget to answer me by PM draz;))) )