How to maintain EK (no blood magic) with mara?

so, you feel it's unfair that you get all the advantages of marauder start -- life, armor, and resistances, without also getting the advantages of all the other start positions?
do you basically expect to play some uber class with offense and mana engine of the witch, and the defense and survivability of a tank, but no disads whatsoever?
you are basically qq'ing because you basically can't get both 500 str and 500 int?

my first char was a witch specifically for the mana engine, and my buddy made a templar that has 3x my armor and capped res.
ir is on the other side of the tree, in easy reach of duelist and ranger, but I don't start some thread about why witches don't have all the armor, str, dex, and res of these other classes.

you picked, mara, of all classes, want to cast a high mana spell as your base attack, and refuse to use the node they put over there specifically for melee casters.

you want to know how to make it work as mara?
bm + life leech + regen + every life node
your other option is stacking mana leech, as posted above

if you don't want to do that, start as witch and get the 300 int + mana nodes + eb

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so, you feel it's unfair that you get all the advantages of marauder start -- life, armor, and resistances, without also getting the advantages of all the other start positions?
do you basically expect to play some uber class with offense and mana engine of the witch, and the defense and survivability of a tank, but no disads whatsoever?
you are basically qq'ing because you basically can't get both 500 str and 500 int?

my first char was a witch specifically for the mana engine, and my buddy made a templar that has 3x my armor and capped res.
ir is on the other side of the tree, in easy reach of duelist and ranger, but I don't start some thread about why witches don't have all the armor, str, dex, and res of these other classes.

you picked, mara, of all classes, want to cast a high mana spell as your base attack, and refuse to use the node they put over there specifically for melee casters.

you want to know how to make it work as mara?
bm + life leech + regen + every life node
your other option is stacking mana leech, as posted above

if you don't want to do that, start as witch and get the 300 int + mana nodes + eb


I dident realise i was qq'ing.
As for your arguments, they are legit and i know of them. However in the current content and state the game is in, inteligence is far superior to either STR ore DEX.

ES has more potential then life and gets a % base of inteligence
Base mana pool is effected by inteligence
base mana regen is dependant on your overall mana pool and is therefore also effected by inteligence.

Now lets look at STR

U get a flat Hp bonus from STR not a %, in adition the %hp nodes where reduced, making both STR less valuable and blood magic.
U get a physical damage improvement, again because of the recent patch, this is a nerf for STR because physical scalling on other nodes is true the roof.

And seriuesly DEX?.... '-.-

So i am not crying here, i was ASKING THE COMMUNITY, how they would attempt to solve this issue, to get some more idee's in addition to my own.

Im attempting to see how u contributed to this thread, and if it wouldent have been better just to not post at all. But please enlighten me '-.-, u know, me qq'ing and all.
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well, if int is so much better, just go witch and stack int

problem solved
Mana Leech probably won't be enough unless you have a lot of mana, btw. Because there's only so much is can Leech per sec (12.5% Max/sec without Q, 15% Max/sec with 20Q).

If you wanna be a Marauder, you NEED BM (gem) + Life + Life Leech. Use your Mana for Auras and Curses, not EK.
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Last edited by CantripN#4278 on Jul 2, 2013, 12:39:50 AM
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CantripN wrote:
Mana Leech probably won't be enough unless you have a lot of mana, btw. Because there's only so much is can Leech per sec (12.5% Max/sec without Q, 15% Max/sec with 20Q).

If you wanna be a Marauder, you NEED BM (gem) + Life + Life Leech. Use your Mana for Auras and Curses, not EK.


This.

I would consider to use BM Gem at least until you have enough Mana/Reg/Leech to manage it. You can reach that point to swap probably in ~30 level with decent gear.
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CantripN wrote:
Mana Leech probably won't be enough unless you have a lot of mana, btw. Because there's only so much is can Leech per sec (12.5% Max/sec without Q, 15% Max/sec with 20Q).

If you wanna be a Marauder, you NEED BM (gem) + Life + Life Leech. Use your Mana for Auras and Curses, not EK.


^^This

For my Ek maruader I had BM on EK and bear traps and 6 aura's on my mana and it was pimp. Any time you in groups of 3+ it will be more difficult for you, that's just how EK is, just use bear traps efficiently to help kills bosess (i'd use culling strike on bear trap, if your running a good amount of Quanitity+rarity to help out the group)
I usually play Shadow EK, but at 31 I always link Mana Leech. This, plus Fork, and I rarely have any problems with mana.

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