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" XileLerinril wrote: You know, I never really got why everyone got so upset about the repair cost increase. I hardly even noticed a change, hell I was actually in favor of it. Seemed like a legit response to corpse rushing. Repair cost killed the game for me too. Some 4-affix packs can only be corpse rushed or pulled aside because Inferno is so poorly tuned for a player arriving in gear that let them beat act IV hell. If you're in a linear area with no room to pull an un-killable pack aside you're screwed. Blizzard's response is that you're undergeared, but even with the minor drop rate changes you can't farm the gear you would need to keep from dying to bad affix combos in act III and IV hell. I've tried. Anything good on the AH for a reasonable amount of gold is snapped up by bots within seconds of being listed to resell on RMAH or for millions of gold. If you didn't get rich in the first weeks of the game exploiting the wizard ES bug or farming vases you really can't progress past Inferno act I without an inordinate amount of farming or a wad of cash. The repair cost increase feels like a heavy-handed ploy to get players to spend money on RMAH. The thing Diablo III has going for it is outstanding combat, fun classes and skills, a beautifully crafted game world, a fun story, and good boss fights. It's an outstanding game through hell difficulty which is why it got such good reviews on major gaming sites. I really enjoyed playing through hell diablo on a couple different classes. The combat is excellent, dramatic skills that slice down, blast through, or electrocute hordes of demons. Is PoE better than Diablo III? I'm not into Merciless to know whether GGG made the same difficulty mistake as Blizzard. It certainly has a more interesting loot and skill system than Diablo III and no pay2win messing up the game balance. Diablo III doesn't offer any stat or passive skill customization at all, and there is no reason to ever make more than one of each class. You can swap skills at any time, and there are only a handful of builds that even work in Inferno anyway. I'm already looking forward to trying an ice witch since my current one is fire/necro. Diablo III has no end game other than horrid inferno grinding and no ladders going yet. The level 60 cap means most of the time you play Diablo III at lvl 60 your character does not increase in power so the game feels unrewarding past hell. PoE already has the leagues and map system so they're a step ahead of Diablo. Plus the PoE level cap is hard to reach so even if you play and get no loot you get some XP and increase your character's power. PoE's combat is nowhere near Diablo III yet, though GGG claims they're working on it. Combat is central to an ARPG so this is a major shortcoming. Character control is poor because of inadequate mouse polling, and there are serious targeting and hitbox issues. I won't even play melee right now. It's too aggravating and all the clicking gives me RSI. At this point I believe PoE has more potential than Diablo III but it remains to be seen whether GGG will get the combat engine tuned up to where the game is really responsive and fun. Last edited by MorriganGrey#3463 on Jul 31, 2012, 1:20:41 PM	Posted by MorriganGrey#3463 on Jul 31, 2012, 1:15:44 PM Quote this Post
ive only played poe for about 4 hours compared to the month and a half playing d3 and honestly after about a week of playing d3 i already hated it.. but i had to give it a chance. needless to say i dont play d3 anymore. poe has a lot of potential and imo is a waaay better game already then d3 could ever be no matter how much fixes and patchs and add ons they do to it. i really hope ggg reads this because id like to say... work hard dont rush. your on the right path. when you get things the way you want them and think its ready to be released...take time to smooth things out first. the gameplay will speak for itself not the release date. keep up the good hard work. your dedication is not going unnoticed.	Posted by Bradic#4364 on Jul 31, 2012, 1:18:27 PM Quote this Post
This is what I think of these two games, just copied from the eu battle.net forum where I've posted it. -not much time to re-arrange it- Wall of text: Spoiler " I've played PoE during the last stress test for a couple of hours, and I've played D3 demo as well for many many hours, as well as followed it from the start.. Overall, I would say: PoE has -> A nice graphic, non a cartoon-style one, but one that is way more similiar to D2's one for atmosphere, general sense and colours but a loooot improved. -> An intricate, innovative and incredibly deep passive skill and active skill system, an innovative mechanic of trading, and the items system and find system in general look solid. -> An enormous capacity of making your hero what you want it to be. -> Lot of time to spend.. off course I've never played D3 full edition (only a couple of time with friends), but in general you can reach lvl 60 fearly quickly and than is just gear/gold farming, and a lot of people disliked it. In PoE you may spend more than 2 years to reach lvl 100 (words of the developers). -> Is F2P but not P2W at all.. you'll never have to pay to be stronger, you can decide to do so if you want to support the team (this way you can get nice pets, estethical features, closed beta keys and no more really). NO RMAH at all. (words of the developers) -> Behind PoE there's a small company of developers who are actually fans of this kind of games, fans of Diablo etc. and not a big multinational and super-rich company like Blizzard actually is. -> Overall the game is more deep and more intelligent, probably not as easy for casual players that want to play, particulary right now as there are still no tutorials. Diablo3 Has -> Some very cool characters, esthetically speaking. And overall the combat system, the monsters dying, the physical mechanics, even the sounds at this stage look probably cooler imho. PvP will be taken seriously in consideration, and for the ones who say that combat are too slow and movement speed as well.. it's just up to the player to improves the character, at higher levels this may change c-o-m-p-l-e-t-e-l-y! So, I'll rather donate 8 to 20 euros to have a closed beta key and may be a kiwi pet, and playing a beta-game with no RMAH and similiar rather than spend 60 euros for 'this' Diablo. PoE looks much more like Diablo to me, even if I have mainly been a Sacred(1) player rather than an hard-supporter of D2. If D3 changes totally I may even consider to buy it, later, but now 60 euros are just not worthed if I can spend 8 to have something better that lasts for more time. And I think Blizzard will still be happy this way, just trying to entertain a large public to get more money and stop. If GGG does what has promised this will just be my game for the next years.. from Italy Last edited by Ows#2806 on Jul 31, 2012, 1:24:53 PM	Posted by Ows#2806 on Jul 31, 2012, 1:23:09 PM Quote this Post
most of the ppl complaining about PoE seem to forget that it is still beta... jaywilson.jpg Step 1: Slap the Community in the Face Step 2: Ask them if they aren't thankful Step 3: ??????? Step 4: PROFIT ------------------------------------------- (EU Realm) Schynbalds(Ranger) \| Zischagge(Marauder)	Posted by Ijuvatar#6138 on Jul 31, 2012, 1:25:42 PM Quote this Post
Ijuvatar, the thing that gets me about PoE is it's still in beta and it's this GOOD. That, and GGG has made it plain that they are listening to us, and want our input. Blizzard has made it clear that they are a pusher and want our money. Honestly, once the shop is in full swing, I'll likely buy skins and pets and such not so much for the look of it, but just to support GGG. Still considering upgrading to get a Kiwi. Kiwi's are cute.	Posted by zraven7#7652 on Jul 31, 2012, 2:56:53 PM Quote this Post
" zraven7 wrote: Ijuvatar, the thing that gets me about PoE is it's still in beta and it's this GOOD. That, and GGG has made it plain that they are listening to us, and want our input. Blizzard has made it clear that they are a pusher and want our money. Honestly, once the shop is in full swing, I'll likely buy skins and pets and such not so much for the look of it, but just to support GGG. Still considering upgrading to get a Kiwi. Kiwi's are cute. yea, when people came up with suggestions on Bnet forum, Bashiok just made fun of them. Lame attitude. Danskere: PM mig, hvis I har brug for en guild.	Posted by ongZ#0545 on Jul 31, 2012, 3:03:31 PM Alpha Member Quote this Post
I can see this game going beyond what Diablo 3 will be. The community for this game already seems better and it is considered a free game. Others may say Diablo 3 is unfishished and I agree with that but still feel that Diablo 3 is more finished than this game. Of course this game is still in BETA and is ALMOST at par with Diablo 3 in my eyes which really tells you that once this game is fully released and continues to grow I think it will surpass Diablo 3 by far if Diablo does not get their act together and make an amazing end game. That is why I love GGG it seems that they are at least trying to find ways to make this game end game while blizzard just cares about people buying and using their RMAH	Posted by Herner#6917 on Jul 31, 2012, 5:32:19 PM Quote this Post
" Ijuvatar wrote: most of the ppl complaining about PoE seem to forget that it is still beta... Very true, but all we have to evaluate is what we're offered to play. In fairness, devs have stated that they're seeing to a lot of the things that I think are lacking right now. I think PoE has the potential to be an excellent game, which is why I am supporting it. Edit: Heck, a real beta with player feedback is a heck of a lot more than Blizzard did and Diablo III suffered for it. Last edited by MorriganGrey#3463 on Jul 31, 2012, 7:23:58 PM	Posted by MorriganGrey#3463 on Jul 31, 2012, 7:22:50 PM Quote this Post
are pancakes better than waffles ? are scrambled eggs better than eggs over easy ?	Posted by jamesl#0818 on Jul 31, 2012, 10:31:19 PM Quote this Post
" zraven7 wrote: Ijuvatar, the thing that gets me about PoE is it's still in beta and it's this GOOD. That, and GGG has made it plain that they are listening to us, and want our input. Blizzard has made it clear that they are a pusher and want our money. Honestly, once the shop is in full swing, I'll likely buy skins and pets and such not so much for the look of it, but just to support GGG. Still considering upgrading to get a Kiwi. Kiwi's are cute. I used to love Blizzard, but now that's all over. GGG seems to be more about making a game their community likes. I'm very curious how the success of these two games pan out in the long run. Which fan base will be bigger? Which will make more money in the long run? The pusher trying hard to increase their revenue, or a community sensitive game with optional support donations/ vanity products? Might be a good case file for future business students. :) It is impossible to hum with your nose closed. (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻	Posted by Haberdasher9000#5253 on Jul 31, 2012, 10:33:21 PM Quote this Post