Cloth and chain/armor and evasion nodes?

Is that group of 6 nodes to the right of unwavering stance any good? It say you get 8% armor and evasion. So is that both? And does it stack if you use iron reflexes? So youd get the 8% armor and then the 8% evasion converted into armor? Im trying to rebuild my marauder and need some help. I want to do a dps/armor build...
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stevendf wrote:
Is that group of 6 nodes to the right of unwavering stance any good? It say you get 8% armor and evasion. So is that both? And does it stack if you use iron reflexes? So youd get the 8% armor and then the 8% evasion converted into armor? Im trying to rebuild my marauder and need some help. I want to do a dps/armor build...


It's 8% to both. They are good nodes for a genuine Armour/Evasion hybrid build.

If you have Iron Reflexes, the whole circle is equivalent (apart from the effect on armour movement penalty) to 64% in Armour nodes (it applies to all of your Armour, including the Armour coming from Evasion, but you don't get the bonus twice). So you're generally better off taking either pure armour nodes that give a higher percentage per node, or armour/ES nodes if you're in that part of the tree and want to use some ES (including Eldritch Battery).
Ah ha, thats what I was wondering, if it gave me a double bonus. Thanks for the help.
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Incompetent wrote:
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stevendf wrote:
Is that group of 6 nodes to the right of unwavering stance any good? It say you get 8% armor and evasion. So is that both? And does it stack if you use iron reflexes? So youd get the 8% armor and then the 8% evasion converted into armor? Im trying to rebuild my marauder and need some help. I want to do a dps/armor build...


It's 8% to both. They are good nodes for a genuine Armour/Evasion hybrid build.

If you have Iron Reflexes, the whole circle is equivalent (apart from the effect on armour movement penalty) to 64% in Armour nodes (it applies to all of your Armour, including the Armour coming from Evasion, but you don't get the bonus twice). So you're generally better off taking either pure armour nodes that give a higher percentage per node, or armour/ES nodes if you're in that part of the tree and want to use some ES (including Eldritch Battery).



Are you 100% sure of this?

I thought it was the evasion calculated first, then transferred to armor than the 8% again.

Ex: 100 eva rating from gear, +8
Iron reflexes gives you an extra 108 armor
(Lets just say you had 0 armor from the beginning.)
108*.08= + 8.64 armor.
From what I understand, this game always rounds down from any decimals.
So you got a total of 16 armor.

It would make sense since going deep into another skill tree you give up a lot of your own main stats when you get iron reflexes.
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Zanyu wrote:

Are you 100% sure of this?

I thought it was the evasion calculated first, then transferred to armor than the 8% again.

Ex: 100 eva rating from gear, +8
Iron reflexes gives you an extra 108 armor
(Lets just say you had 0 armor from the beginning.)
108*.08= + 8.64 armor.
From what I understand, this game always rounds down from any decimals.
So you got a total of 16 armor.

It would make sense since going deep into another skill tree you give up a lot of your own main stats when you get iron reflexes.


Nono, they ended those shenanigans a decent clip back. If you have iron reflexes and you have 100 evasion and you purchase an 8% armor/evasion node, you will end with 108 armor.
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Zanyu wrote:

Are you 100% sure of this?

I thought it was the evasion calculated first, then transferred to armor than the 8% again.

Ex: 100 eva rating from gear, +8
Iron reflexes gives you an extra 108 armor
(Lets just say you had 0 armor from the beginning.)
108*.08= + 8.64 armor.
From what I understand, this game always rounds down from any decimals.
So you got a total of 16 armor.

It would make sense since going deep into another skill tree you give up a lot of your own main stats when you get iron reflexes.


Nono, they ended those shenanigans a decent clip back. If you have iron reflexes and you have 100 evasion and you purchase an 8% armor/evasion node, you will end with 108 armor.


Hm. I remember hearing that getting 8% evasion and armor is better than a 10% armor node, but if it works the way mentioned from above, the flat 10% armor node should be better.
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