Severe lack of balance once again ruining the game

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sidtherat#1310 wrote:

Ephemeral Edge is just another variant of the same disease GGG fell ill to - 'stacking'

EE just 'clicks' with already built-to-win archetype: INT stacking, where stacking one thing gives you defence, offence and utility. EE does the same but stronger, and the only price for it is that you cannot use wand skills with it

Slams are popular in hcssf because they get easy gear progression and have good guides by good players for them. recombinators made getting good slam weapon very easy (you just need 3p/0s for non crit slam and that is much easier to get since both recomb options are present due to salvaging 'one good' preffix weapons for a chance of separating the desired mod)

Overextertion is a problem or rather - tying all melee buffs from patches ago to one mechanic (warcries) created a rift between skills like Sweep (that does not benefit from warcries much in practice) and slams that actually do - while everything around them stays the same. that makes Sweep a skill NOONE should EVER play as it deals fraction of slam skill

removing part of that power and spreading it over other mechanics/areas - but EVENLY this time please - would do A LOT

many do not know but since GGG introduced 'strikes' and 'slams' as keywords, skills that are neither are kinda.. abandonware. Ruthless - the best bleed support in the game - no longer works with 'melee' skills, now it needs 'strike' or 'slam'. cool for EQ, bad for Sweep



while i see the OP's complaint as bit overblown and definitely poorly argument, there is factual support for the problematic nature of Overextertion support and its disproportionately strong effect on slams

nerfing VFoS was.. kinda expected. slam that offscreens, auto-aims and has great damage? no way.
it also made regular Volcanic Fissure like a total joke (that it is btw, it is unusable skill with botched scaling)

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sidtherat#1310 wrote:

this is on HC

HC is not for 'playing whatever, dying, repeating'
people dont like loosing their 100h+ characters to a random essence mod from hell

so HC has ALWAYS, AAAALWAYS devolved into very top heavy meta of skills/builds that DO NOT FAIL. nerf slams - necros will replace them, with the same %. nerf necros - totems will replace them, or brands - and easy 40% of the ladder will play the same build

if anything HCSSF build diversity will be the lowest of all modes. it is a mode for hardcore players mostly played by hardcore wannabes with logout macro.. so sad GGG keeps that macro alive

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ArtCrusade#4438 wrote:

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sidtherat#1310 wrote:

this is on HC

HC is not for 'playing whatever, dying, repeating'
people dont like loosing their 100h+ characters to a random essence mod from hell

so HC has ALWAYS, AAAALWAYS devolved into very top heavy meta of skills/builds that DO NOT FAIL. nerf slams - necros will replace them, with the same %. nerf necros - totems will replace them, or brands - and easy 40% of the ladder will play the same build

if anything HCSSF build diversity will be the lowest of all modes. it is a mode for hardcore players mostly played by hardcore wannabes with logout macro.. so sad GGG keeps that macro alive

What irks me most is how uncreative a lot of HC players are. There's a myriad of ways to make tanky charcters that still dish out tons of damage.

Also, I don't judge builds by pick rate. It just shows where sheeple copy from

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MrEpic#2507 wrote:

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Baharoth15#0429 wrote:

Nerfing overexert this hard would just remove slams from the meta as a playstyle once again. We had that before. Slams popular for league starts and SSF then they got nerfed and vanished from sight. You have to consider the price slam builds pay for getting all that damage which is wc piano or alternatively, no auras. That damage isn't free at all and if they don't have that there is no reason to play them at all.

Also, you might want to consider that your idea of balance isn't everyones or GGGs idea of balance.

I really don't consider having to press buttons a hard downside of a build, there are always builds available for lazy players who aren't interested in pressing more buttons in order to tap into a little bit more power at the cost of QOL for example bladefall bladeblaster which can deal pretty insane levels of damage when compared to for example a "comfier" blade vortex build.

Another part of your argument was that autoexertion came at the cost of not being able to run auras which is not only wrong but also a moot agument at its core.
I have a pob open right now with a 6link autoexertion setup and its far from reserving 100% mana, in fact I am still able to work in a 50% reserve aura + purity of fire + blood and sand with minimal investment and a level 3 enlighten.
Also the reason why even if that wasn't the case your point would still be moot is that since nowadays melee players use pride over determination so they use a large chunk of their mana to reserve for damage regardless if autoexert existed or not, so how is it that all of a sudden you try to justify this imbalance by acting as if that having to reserve mana for damage is a giga downside of the build when it gives infinitely more damage than any damage aura.

Just LOOK at your first sentence and you will realize you are agreeing with my core argument even if you don't want to... What is meta in PoE? Its only the most broken builds that upset the balance of the game so much that literally most of the community feel as if they are basically being forced to play it and you attempt to claim that removing a skill from the meta is automatically a bad thing? Being removed from the "meta" doesn't automatically mean that it has to become unplayable... I will make another post soon about how by their shoddy balancing work for years the devs have enabled the content creators to influence the entire community to have insanely high standards for builds which is actually really toxic for the game and cringe...

Also, you might think my "idea" of balance is just an opinion but if you actually start thinking about it you will realize it's actually 99% common sense and 1% opinion.

GGG I am available for hire as a game balancing consultant I think your team desperately needs some help in this department.