Question: Ethereal Knifes & Detonate Dead

So i just read that both are not affected by passives such as "spell damage increased by 10%".

That's rather sad because I wanted to build a Caster-Shadow.

He is still low though, but see my passive tree skill and tell me how bad I fucked up.


So now my Questions:

Projectile Damage passives: do they affect ethereal knifes?

Elemental Damage passives: do they affect detonate (and firetraps as well?)

- Fire Damage passives: the same as Elemental damage?

- Mind Drinker + Ethereal knifes does it work?

- What other passives interact well with Ethereal Knifes and Detonate dead?
Cast speed? Attack speed?

Please tell me, couldn't really find enough information on the skill forum.

Thank you!

ANSWER THE MAN

THIS IS GOOD QUESTIONS!

Ethereal Knives is affected by spell damage, last I heard. Since it's a spell, it's not affected by Mind Drinker; it is affected by Added Fire Damage, Hatred, and projectile damage, though.

Detonate Dead isn't, mostly because it ended up being overpowered that way (see also: why the explosion off Infernal Blow isn't spell damage either), but with the lore justification that the thing that's exploding isn't actually a spell in the same direct way, say, a fireball is.
It is affected by increased fire damage, though.

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Skivverus wrote:

Detonate Dead isn't, mostly because it ended up being overpowered that way (see also: why the explosion off Infernal Blow isn't spell damage either), but with the lore justification that the thing that's exploding isn't actually a spell in the same direct way, say, a fireball is.
It is affected by increased fire damage, though.

Then my fire witch has hell of a lot fire damage (which she doesn't) and she does over 100% of monster hp as damage with detonate. I'm positive it is affected by spell, fire and elemental damage.

hmm well thank you both. But now I don't know which one to trust more.

I hope GGG will clarify this in future so you know what skills benefit from what passives.

At least I can skill in fire damage and projectiles.

Maybe someone else knows more :D

I'll defer to the one who actually uses the skill regularly, then :P.

Though I will point out that "elemental" damage includes fire damage.

You have to read the threads in the Beta skill Feedback.

Ethereal Knives is a Spell that does physical damage. It's NOT an attack, so Mind Drinker and most Auras won't work. Neither will Life Leech

Spell Damage should work, and Projectiles passives.


As for Detonate Dead, generic Crits Elemental and Fire Damage should work. GGG has Stated that Spell damage DO NOT work on Detonate Dead. If it does, it's nort meant to :)

Good luck using that skill with a Shadow. It needs a TON of +Fire to be effective. Also, DON'T LEVEL THE GEM AT ALL !

As far as I found out Spelldamage does increase Ethereal Knifes.
Not sure about detonate dead.


Both get benefits from castspeed.
And critrate.

So that's pretty much all I need for this build:

Spell Damage
Fire Damage
Cast Speed
Crit

Yay!

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Mark_GGG wrote:

Ethereal Knives is a spell. It deals physical damage via projectiles. It is therefore affected by spell, projectile and physical damage modifiers.

Detonate Dead is a spell, but since the spell does not deal damage directly (it explodes a corpse, causing it to deal damage), it is not considered spell damage, and is not affected by spell damage increases. The damage dealt is both fire and physical, so it's affected by modifiers to those damage types, as well as elemental damage (because fire is elemental).

Complicated is complicated stuff.