Shaper of Flames can't ignite with Physical damage ?

I used the following set up and found out that i could not ignite
(Shaper of Flames + Cold Iron Point + Physical damage skill)

All damage can ignite should include physical damage, right?
The cold iron point disabled my elemental damage, but I should still be able to ignite with a physical skill.
is it a bug? or just a description error? All damage can ignite only applies to cold and lightning damage?

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nicky675#1378 wrote:

The cold iron point disabled my elemental damage, but I should still be able to ignite with a physical skill.

In theory, mayhaps.

But then you deal no elemental damage, so the Ignite would deal 0 Fire damage per second, so it's discarded instead of inflicted.

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Jadian#0111 wrote:

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nicky675#1378 wrote:

The cold iron point disabled my elemental damage, but I should still be able to ignite with a physical skill.

In theory, mayhaps.

But then you deal no elemental damage, so the Ignite would deal 0 Fire damage per second, so it's discarded instead of inflicted.

I forgot to mention that I also used a Blackflame
(converting all ignite damage from fire to chaos damage)
My physical skill--->ignite---->(fire to chaos damage)

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nicky675#1378 wrote:

I forgot to mention that I also used a Blackflame
(converting all ignite damage from fire to chaos damage)

Blackflame doesn't affect the damage while you're dealing it, but while the enemy is taking it.
Even with Blackflame equipped, your ignites deal Fire damage.

And since you have Cold Iron Point equipped, your ignites deal no damage.

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Jadian#0111 wrote:

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nicky675#1378 wrote:

I forgot to mention that I also used a Blackflame
(converting all ignite damage from fire to chaos damage)

Blackflame doesn't affect the damage while you're dealing it, but while the enemy is taking it.
Even with Blackflame equipped, your ignites deal Fire damage.

And since you have Cold Iron Point equipped, your ignites deal no damage.

OH~ That would make sense, thanks a lot.
But still, it's strange that the other two shaper of x still works with cold iron point and just the fire one doesn't.
I can still shock and chill with cold iron point.

i cant ignite with soulrend either

i am 100% phys to lightning/fire dmg taken, when monster is ignited, i tested with and without the passive.

tryed test naked too on white monster and just Fist the monsters with rings and belt for fire resi so i dont have armour.
My bet is it dont work.

Funny enough, i cant make pob make it increase EHP either. with 85% resi 40% phys to fire should be quite and impact.

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Nisseonbeer#5663 wrote:

Funny enough, i cant make pob make it increase EHP either. with 85% resi 40% phys to fire should be quite and impact.

PoB is not an official app, you can report that to their devs.

As for your testing, that is not how Shaper of Flames + Lightning Coil works. This is the order:
Enemy does 100 physical damage
Enemy is ignited
Enemy now deals 60 physical and 40 fire damage
Lightning Coil is equipped
Enemy now deals 30 physical, 30 lightning, and 40 fire damage

So you're not fully converting their physical damage. And depending on the map mods or enemy's attack, 30% physical can really hurt without mitigation.

I'm currently using 40% from Shaper, 25% from Kaom's Binding, plus a decent amount of armor. And ignoring high damage map mods, I notice it when I charge into a pack and get attacked before they are ignited. So it is working for me.