What's the point in running betrayal in maps now?

Am I missing something? If I don't learn recipes from completing the objectives then why should I spend time dealing with the side areas and such?

The implication was that, if you wanted powerful veiled gear, you'd still have to get it as drops. The benchcrafts won't ever be as good. That said, I'm kinda feeling the same way you do. ='[.]'=

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Raycheetah#7060 wrote:

The implication was that, if you wanted powerful veiled gear, you'd still have to get it as drops. The benchcrafts won't ever be as good. That said, I'm kinda feeling the same way you do. ='[.]'=

Ooof. I really was hoping I was missing something. They drop junk 99.999999% it's a total waste of time if you look at all the other things to do in POE.

It's still early so maybe something will surface but right now it seems like a complete waste of time.

Edit: I guess the only saving grace is using recombination or split to get a good veiled mod on a base you can work with? Seems wild. I guess the chase is the veiled chaos orb?

Eeeehm... To get intelligence towards the safehouses and Catarina? Am I missing something here?

It did feel a bit gimmicky to just generate passive intelligence by running maps when you clicked a certain notable.

You get to execute a lot if you have reinforcements and more likely to spawn leader. That generates a ton of int when you click the same notable.

Plus, this version of betrayal is much better because you get to keep your board indefinitely. I like it.

I did betrayal farming on league start. I don't think I ever got a single usable piece of gear from them. The cool stuff was in the safehouses.

Gravicius is still great. Got a couple of divs worth of div cards from him. Tora gives Facetor's Lens as a reward in transportation now - I believe from 50 million to 150 million exp. You can take a gem immediately to level 18 or 19 and almost maxed. The "craft an item" benches were pretty much all bad. Ancient Orb on worthless slots lol. Maybe there's something good in there but most are duds.

The big payout of betrayal seems to be Janus in research. He offers items like the Nameless Seer only you have to pay gold. I got a T1 or T2 unique from his options every time I think. I'm not sure if other people can use your bench but the T1s were like 500k-650k gold. If you don't have it on you you're out of luck. On Reddit they said the T0s were around 2 million gold. I was lucky I had enough to get Rathpith. I had to pull money out of my town and just had enough and it's only a T2. EDIT: Was patched! T0s are only ~135k gold now! Gamble away!

Overall I still think betrayal is not worth doing but the gamble is fun.

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DiabloImmoral#7632 wrote:

The big payout of betrayal seems to be Janus in research. He offers items like the Nameless Seer only you have to pay gold. I got a T1 or T2 unique from his options every time I think. I'm not sure if other people can use your bench but the T1s were like 500k-650k gold. If you don't have it on you you're out of luck. On Reddit they said the T0s were around 2 million gold. I was lucky I had enough to get Rathpith. I had to pull money out of my town and just had enough and it's only a T2.

I would say you should ignore research entirely until you have enough gold to buy a jackpot if one appears. It takes too much time. Once you're gold rich you can try to hit the jackpot (but if you've played enough to have more than 2 million excess gold you probably already have your Mageblood....) If someone else can use your bench to grab the item that's a different story since you could sell it but you could never use other people's benches before.

All in all I had a lot of fun but it was very bad currency/hour and I wouldn't do it next league. Safehouses are good exp at least.

Did you mean this?

This from the latest patch:

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Vastly reduced the gold cost of extremely rare Unique items from Cadiro in Betrayal. The rarest unique will cost at a maximum ~135000 gold. This is to alleviate an issue where you'd have to keep a huge amount of gold on your character at all times just in case the right unique item was offered. This is approximately twenty-five times cheaper now for the most expensive unique items.

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3792173

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Hell yeah!

such a shame they re-did the rewards to make it better and......failed so hard.

Cause ironically veiled gear drops identified and I want a +all skills amulet but cannot be bothered actually looking for one.

Thats my 1 miniature reason.