Why gate keep Ascendancy points so hard???

Idk about anyone else but it looks like getting my final Ascendancy point is never going to happen...I am a lvl 89 amazon wiping the floor with T15 maps dying in lvl 78 chaos trials...THEY ARE NOT FUN WHATSOEVER! Every single time i get the 3 worst options possible. on top of that The bosses hit way too hard and im just one shot all the time. I can agree some of my issue might be a skill issue but ive beat the breach lord guy several times, sames with the simulacrum area...Something needs to be fixed here. Dont get me started on how terrible the final area of the suckamus trial is...this crap alone is going to make me stop playing the game...

I want the game to be as good as it can be but it feels like the devs are gatekeeping the final ascendancy points for no reason. It does not need to be this difficult that a lvl 89 is struggling in a lvl 78 trial. do i have to be lvl 99 and do a lvl 78 trial for me to get it? what is the point in making it this way?

EDIT: Im playing SSF

Same story for me with my amazon. Got one shotted by flappy bird or sucked into the tornado over and over with lvl 91 char in lvl 75-76 chaos trials. Then playing Lich the ascendancies were a walk in the park, everything clearned on first try with no problems. It's not skill issues, the game is just very poorly balanced. Amazon may be the meta for this league but it's a glass cannon that is very vulnerable to some bs mechanics without optimized gear/stats.

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Flowneppets#0528 wrote:

Same story for me with my amazon. Got one shotted by flappy bird or sucked into the tornado over and over with lvl 91 char in lvl 75-76 chaos trials. Then playing Lich the ascendancies were a walk in the park, everything clearned on first try with no problems. It's not skill issues, the game is just very poorly balanced. Amazon may be the meta for this league but it's a glass cannon that is very vulnerable to some bs mechanics without optimized gear/stats.

Thanks for the reply good to know its not just me.

Don't worry OP, next league your amazon will also suck in T15 maps as per the Vision:) Archmage sorcerers also thought they were good. Once.

For now, sanctum is much better choice for glass cannon chars than ulti, you just need to avoid picking crappy afflictions like black smoke or less movement speed or more boss action speed. Dex classes can handle clock phase better than others, which means you shouldn't have problems ascending.

Thanks ill give them more of a go. Ive made it to the end on those but always get hit too much in the chaos that is that final boss fight.

Sounds a bit, like a glass cannon issue, as someone already posted. How are your defensive layers, how much ES? Are resis capped?

Ultimatum can be quite nasty. When you get the wrong debuffs, you are pretty much screwed. I would rather try Sekhemas.

Also buy %increased defenses relics on trade first, in addition to standard 75% honor resistance cap. Sanctum is the only place in the game where pure mass of evasion can actually be called a defense.

I'm interested in the design decision that swapped from the trials of ascendency in poe to poe2's ultimatum / sanctum approaches.

POE trials are randomised mildly (map generation, and pathing which changes daily), vs the extreme randomisation of ultimatum / sanctum.

If the final 2 ascendency points are intended for extreme late game that would make sense (e.g. character is intended to be level 90+, or extremely well geared). Kinda a "demonstrate you can handle anything" challenge. In that case it might be good to make it explicit to players (UI tooltip?).

Alternatively if the last two ascendency points are part of the core concept of the characters and are meant to be gained closer to level 75 when you can start finding these challenges, it may need to be tweaked to be more accessible. Maybe something to reduce the level of randomness, or length of the challenges.



*** My experiences

I personally am struggling to get my final two ascendency points, as others have pointed out, it might be a gear issue. Or maybe I'm not playing optimally for my build.

I'm playing a spark blood mage, my hp is 2.3k, ele res 75%, chaos res ~20%, phys ~20%, and es is ~0.6k.
Running 100% crit, with 10% damage insta-leech.

I haven't been able to grind better gear, with the key items I already have needing to be sourced from trade as I'm just not that lucky.

So far I've been unable to complete a 75+ sanctum / ultimatum. Often ending in either a 1 shot in ultimatum (flappy bird's lightning chain generally), or after the hour or so to get to the 4th stage, not having enough honor to take a hit.

I already have capped honor res; but I've started realising that I should try finding (buying from trade) items with max honor + honor res. Also I've never actually seen a sanctum map drop? My drop luck is very trash

I've no idea how to handle ultimatum, between sometimes having 3 options that all seem like suicide, or just getting hit by the bird's lightning... *shrugs*

I'll try sticking to sanctum and improving my relics for now, and maybe have a divine drop and hope I can afford some gear upgrade (or try this Lich ascendency)