Guess it's time to Move on and maybe come back 0.3

To start off, this post says just about everything I need to, give it some attention and love so maybe GGG actually takes heed
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3764551

I am a video game lover, and a casual. I tried to get into POE 1 a while back and just couldn't, as it is overwhelming to start. I have played every Diablo game, D4 so bad atm lol. When POE 2 came I figured, HEY, you know what, lets start fresh. I remember sitting and watching the 2 hour POE 2 reveal. OMG I had goosebumps. It looked so good, the enthusiasm from the Devs. I was hooked. When 0.1 arrived, I fell in love. There were some problems I foresaw though, and I was right.

#1- Campaign is brutal. Good in terms of story, but damn, to restart that EVERY league. Yes checkpoints were added, a little smaller, but still. 12-20 hours to do, more in 0.2 your first time. HELL NO. To alleviate that, make all campaign maps Static. The same layout, Always. Players could then know where exactly to go each time, and save a lot of time searching. And make them smaller, but increase monster XP.

#2- Loot is just terrible. I see in chat people showing their Currency rings, new players finding Divines in campaign. I played 400 hours in the first month of 0.1 and found 3 Divines only, 0 Perfect Jewelers, 1 Greater. This league, I have found 0 of all of them and I have 2 level 90s. I never find anything great, and "crafting" is just terrible. I have seen videos of what you can do in POE 1, and I am at a loss why you would go so backwards.

#3- Endgame- enough has been said on that, it is no where near enough and boring as all hell. No loot drops, so what is the point?

#4- I feel like you dont respect my time as a player. You only just added Ascendency respec, and that was only because players are demanding it, not because you respect my playtime. You are so focused on what you THINK the game should be and no what the players would like to see. Respecing doesnt hurt you guys, its a personal thing. This really made no sense to me, and was hurt as a player that you fought so much on it. Loot is terrible, so why should I grind for hours to get nothing? Farming is difficult because blasting is gone, oh wait, the monsters still get to blast, but not me.

#5- on the topic of respecting players time- Trading. You know how much time I waste on the trade site ACTUALLY trying to find someone to trade... So many bots trying to price fix, or just not responding. Make a bloody auction house already... WoW had one 20 years ago..... There is ZERO, I mean ZEERRROOO reason why there shouldnt be one at this time and age for this type of game. All those issues, would be gone. The price you see, is the price you pay. DONE. This is honestly a big pain point for me, and how its handled may decide whether I return or not.

#6- Stash tabs. OMG. I understand a F2P game needs to have an income generator, but come on. Some tabs should be base game, Like currency, Maps, and 1 Trade Tab if you refuse to do a Auction house. This is just plain greed.

#7- Soul Cores, Runes, Expedition Need Tabs. In all Honestly, anything Socketable should be on 1 Stash tab, not multiple. Breach should be added to the Delerium Tab. Waystone tab should have a Precursor section added to it. These things are called Respecting Player time and money.

I really feel like there was hope for a positive direction, but this league went so far backwards that I am not sure. I think a lot of hopes need to be filled before the player base returns. I am honestly done until 0.3. Unless massive changes happen, which they wont before then, I dont think I can return. I'm not going to show love and respect to a game/developer that doesn't respect myself or other players. I think all the streamers and public leaving in droves, is testament to the state of the game.

I hope things change and the game flourishes. Until then, take care, and wish me luck trying out Last Epoch for the first time. Warlock here I come :)

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This is just plain greed.

Referring to the only non-cosmetic items in a f2p game.. instantly its greed.

Then says they are buying a 35$ game.

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Cadmus185#9233 wrote:

Campaign is brutal. Good in terms of story, but damn, to restart that EVERY league. Yes checkpoints were added, a little smaller, but still. 12-20 hours to do, more in 0.2 your first time. HELL NO.

I will read these posts until the day I die and never begin to understand them. Just post after post of people who apparently are more than happy to spend 400, 600, 800, 1200 hours running the same small handful of maps over and over again but will turn around and act like it's a sin against the most holy upon high that the campaign takes a couple more hours than they expected. It's absolute lunacy for everyone but for a so-called "casual video game lover" it's super nonsense.

Like what difference does it make to you whether you're in the campaign or not dude? It's the same game. How is the campaign more "brutal" than T1 maps, or T3, or T5, or T7, or T9? The only practical difference between campaign gameplay and endgame gameplay is the quality of loot and access to pinnacle bosses and a "casual video game lover" frankly has no reason to make that distinction.

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I played 400 hours in the first month of 0.1 and found 3 Divines only

First of all, am I to understand that a "casual video game lover" played 100 hours a week in the first month of 0.1?

Casual?

100 hours a week?

And anyway, this just straight up didn't happen. You may have been online for 400 hours but you were absolutely not actively playing if you only found 3 divs.

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Endgame- enough has been said on that, it is no where near enough and boring as all hell. No loot drops, so what is the point?

I would think as a casual lover of video games the point would be the casual video gaming.

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So many bots trying to price fix

Humans price fix. Bots will sell you the item they listed for the price they listed it for because that's what bots do.

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Soul Cores, Runes, Expedition Need Tabs

They added that last night big guy.

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Kerchunk#7797 wrote:

I will read these posts until the day I die and never begin to understand them. Just post after post of people who apparently are more than happy to spend 400, 600, 800, 1200 hours running the same small handful of maps over and over again but will turn around and act like it's a sin against the most holy upon high that the campaign takes a couple more hours than they expected. It's absolute lunacy for everyone but for a so-called "casual video game lover" it's super nonsense.

Like what difference does it make to you whether you're in the campaign or not dude? It's the same game. How is the campaign more "brutal" than T1 maps, or T3, or T5, or T7, or T9? The only practical difference between campaign gameplay and endgame gameplay is the quality of loot and access to pinnacle bosses and a "casual video game lover" frankly has no reason to make that distinction.

Let's say you love food and want to enjoy your favourite dish. You have probably eaten it hundreds or even thousands of times, but it's still what you crave.

That you will have a great time eating the dish is obvious.
But even beyond just consuming, you even like to cook. Moulding all these
ingredients into the dish you love. Seeing and working on the process, to get to the result you love so much.
But... do you like to walk to the supermarket, find all the stuff to cook with, wait in line until you can finally go home and start what you enjoy?
Sure. Some ppl even enjoy that, but most - arguably - don't.

And sure, I could make the comparison "the campaign is an appetiser", but right now, it's less of an appetiser; instead, it's like vegetables you have to eat before you are allowed to enjoy your dessert.

what is with all these "i'm breaking up with you" threads lol

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rhorains#6760 wrote:

what is with all these "i'm breaking up with you" threads lol

Could make you think.

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JakkerONAIR#4902 wrote:

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rhorains#6760 wrote:

what is with all these "i'm breaking up with you" threads lol

Could make you think.

Hey bro, you turned from PoE 2 defender into PoE 2 offender. Did 0.2 break your heart?

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Sakanabi#6664 wrote:

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JakkerONAIR#4902 wrote:

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rhorains#6760 wrote:

what is with all these "i'm breaking up with you" threads lol

Could make you think.

Hey bro, you turned from PoE 2 defender into PoE 2 offender. Did 0.2 broke your heart?

Even in 0.1.0 I only defended things that were defendable.
Nonsense like "95% of the player base left because of EXP loss" is still something I would argue against, BUT you are somewhat right.
GGG not improving anything they actually should, after tons of feedback, is nothing I can and/or will defend.

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JakkerONAIR#4902 wrote:

Even in 0.1.0 I only defended things that were defendable.
Nonsense like "95% of the player base left because of EXP loss" is still something I would argue against, BUT you are somewhat right.
GGG not improving anything they actually should, after tons of feedback, is nothing I can and/or will defend.

I'm sorry to hear that. But maybe it's time for you to take a break. I enjoy the game honestly and don't care much about patch - I just play what I want and always find something to work with. So see you in 0.3 I suppose.

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Sakanabi#6664 wrote:

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JakkerONAIR#4902 wrote:

Even in 0.1.0 I only defended things that were defendable.
Nonsense like "95% of the player base left because of EXP loss" is still something I would argue against, BUT you are somewhat right.
GGG not improving anything they actually should, after tons of feedback, is nothing I can and/or will defend.

I'm sorry to hear that. But maybe it's time for you to take a break. I enjoy the game honestly and don't care much about patch - I just play what I want and always find something to work with. So see you in 0.3 I suppose.

I already quit days ago. And it's the first time ever in many years that I say it, but I won't come back to "0.3.0" unless GGG delivers something better than "0.1.0".
Not better than "0.2.0" because "0.1.0" was the "bare minimum" I expected to get improved, so just going back to the bare minimum won't make it.
Make it better than "0.1.0", or I won't come back.