"We want players to do combo gameplay!"

Proceeds to let a one button screen clearing build to dominate the ladders, but nerfed cast on freeze in 0.1???

Can we have some consistency? Can we have a list of allowed builds or something?

I am tired boss.

Allowed builds? What do you mean? Everything is 'allowed' that isn't an exploit or breaks TOS.

Cast on freeze was clearly not allowed cause it got nerfed, but now LS is 10x more powerful but its allowed to stay with no nerfs, its all very arbitrary and it feels bad to play with 10% of the clearspeed of others since its a game focused on economy trading.

What he means is there seems to be contradiction in what they say and what ends up happening.

All the "Cast On" builds were in effect combo builds, and they all got destroyed to the point where a build that literally ignites the entire map doesn't bother to run "cast on ignite."

Meanwhile, 1 button builds still quite effective.

LS isn't 10x stronger than the CoF with comet was on days 1 and 2 of EA release. They clearly stated they won't be nerfing anything mid-league unless it's completely egregious. This would be things like the autobomber infinite damage loop, CoF with comet that was 1-shotting everything and being abused day 1 of EA. Monklings with 30+ attacks per second or literally faster attacks that aren't even being registered by the server.

Lightning spear is strong but it's not egregious as in it's not 1-tapping T4 pinnacle bosses.

What isn't allowed: skills/triggers that 1-shot pinnacle bosses with 100+ million HP. That's pretty much your list and I don't see LS doing that right now.

If you continue to focus on what everyone else is doing - you are never going to have fun playing this game. There are always going to be extremely OP builds that 99% of the community can't achieve and there is nothing GGG can do about that. Some people have more time than others and this game is about GRINDIN which takes TIME.

Its not "oneshoting" bosses but kills them fast, LS clears double screen of mobs.
While im having fun on my build, major playerbase rushing thought maps, grinding tons of currency. In a few days im already out of everybody budget.
So on one side is fun, on other side is so disbalanced skill that it just makes everything else pointless. Its like im shooting my self in a foot.
Even 0.1 had no such problems, there been broken build but at least there been few of them, not like 1 LS which just overwhelms everything else

I like the idea of combos on blues rares and uniques. No combos on white mobs they are just fodder for setting up combos on the bigger ones.

Don't worry, next patch there will be even more nerfs. This will continue until there are no fun builds to play.

Fun is not the aim of the game.

If you compare yourself to the zoomers and blasters and people who have all day to grind - then it will always be unbalanced. There are other "off-meta" builds can clear two screens of mobs and whatnot.

Yes, good builds are supposed to be able to kill pinnacle bosses fast. That is why they are good. Doesn't mean it's broken or completely egregious.

0.1 had exactly the same problems so I'm not sure what you mean there. Stat stackers and auto bombers and LA deadeyes were top of the ladders. Infernalist was OP. 0.1 had the same problems.

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JarlaxleDaerthe#2435 wrote:

Don't worry, next patch there will be even more nerfs. This will continue until there are no fun builds to play.

Fun is not the aim of the game.

And then the same people will complain "WHY MY BUILD GET NERFED?" and then when new class comes out the same people be like "WHY IS THAT BUILD OP AND THE ONE I PICKED NOT?"

It's a vicious cycle. I feel bad for the devs but I'm sure they are good at filtering this noise out now.