Elemental spell are boring and need an overhaul.

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golgol12#6028 wrote:
I agree with you that the spell options are very limited.

However your complaints have flaws. It's like you didn't even bother to try to use skill interactions.



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Ice Nova looks good, but it's kind of bad.


Explain why! You didn't even talk about how ice nova combos with frost bolt.


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Ember Fusillade is clunky to use and not very impactful.


What are you smoking? It's the best fire spell. It's very impactful. You just weave it between your other spells and don't bother aiming it. It auto aims for you.

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Frost Bolt is slow and boring,


Looks boring? Yeah. Slow? Intentional. You need to combo skills on those balls.



You keep going on like this.




Mostly because the 'combo' gameplay isn't very... good. Why would anyone want to set up the combo when there's the option to just cast on freeze Comet in conjuction with just Frostbolt or just Frost Nova? There's no incentive to use the combo because there's easily accessed, easier to use options.

Many find Ember Fusilade clunky. The best builds literally involve the player using a metronome. That doesn't exactly scream "user intuitive" to me.

Why do we need to combo abilities to make them useful/interesting? Earthquake involves no combo, and it's visually impressive.
I like the cold skills. Frost bomb is nice if you put spell echo on it , so it goes off twice, otherwise it would suck. I don't use Ice nova or Frost bolt though. The skill on the ice staff is better.

Lightning is horrible. None of the skills seem to go together at all. Skills like Orb of Storms and Tempest require you stay near them which is very hard considering you are usually dodging and kiting for your life due to having low survive ability. The best skill was Arc and they just ruined it by making it no longer shock. This was the best spam skill.

Fire is ok but just seems to lack damage. Ignite is awful. Firewall is horrible damage too, it seems they want you to use it for the projectile buff , but that playstyle just isn't very enjoyable, in fact it is kind of annoying as the wall always seem to fall just before your projectiles go off, due to ember fusillade having a delay to it. Ember fusillade is probably the best damage skill but is very clunky to use. Flameblast is decent damage but it's hard to channel anything in this game as you are constantly chain stunned/interupted, also they just nerfed it also. Fireball is horrible damage on bosses , it's good for clearing or if you want to melt your video card.
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Never seen someone so wrong about every single flame skill.

Solar orb does no damage ? lmfao


I stopped reading after Frost Bomb was called useless.
Yea its just ...


They say its not about numbers or their build


But then they say skills dont do damage, or are useless, or avoidable.


Twice the op has tried to make a case about skills be useless because mobs dont stand in them.

And its just like ....


They dont know how to use those abilities at that point.
Mash the clean
Ice Nova + Frostbolt (Deceleration is KEY) + Frost Bomb (for bosses) + decent wand/staff = golden (???)

Ice Nova (for those pesky wolves in Clearfell and Grelwood) + Frost Bomb + Freezing Shards (auto attack on Gelid Staff) (for damage until you get near monsters for Ice Nova) damage right out the gate is pretty fucking decent, if I do say so myself.

Frost Bomb boss, Freezing Shards/Ice Nova, go to town.

Will report back on Ice Nova + Frostbolt. Haven't gotten to use Frostbolt yet.
Last edited by Aulyx#1181 on Apr 13, 2025, 1:19:14 AM
Nah you're right, spells are totally fine.

Actually, let's remove all the visuals from them. They just shoot out grey placeholder squares. And reduce their damage by 95%.

Still waiting for that Solar Orb build, let's see it.
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Yea its just ...


They say its not about numbers or their build


But then they say skills dont do damage, or are useless, or avoidable.


Twice the op has tried to make a case about skills be useless because mobs dont stand in them.

And its just like ....


They dont know how to use those abilities at that point.


After reading what you wrote it leaves one to assume you haven't finished the campaign before.
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Yea its just ...


They say its not about numbers or their build


But then they say skills dont do damage, or are useless, or avoidable.


Twice the op has tried to make a case about skills be useless because mobs dont stand in them.

And its just like ....


They dont know how to use those abilities at that point.


After reading what you wrote it leaves one to assume you haven't finished the campaign before.


Never finished the campaign? Thats a theory but okay. Sure yea.


Lets see that build of yours by the way, still waiting on that one. Im guessing its either, something that was carried by last leagues archmage and grim broken and in standard.

Or it doesnt exist. Cause you just have no idea what you are talking about when it comes to these spells.
Mash the clean
Last edited by Mashgesture#2912 on Apr 13, 2025, 4:30:35 AM
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Yea its just ...


They say its not about numbers or their build


But then they say skills dont do damage, or are useless, or avoidable.


Twice the op has tried to make a case about skills be useless because mobs dont stand in them.

And its just like ....


They dont know how to use those abilities at that point.


After reading what you wrote it leaves one to assume you haven't finished the campaign before.


Never finished the campaign? Thats a theory but okay. Sure yea.


Lets see that build of yours by the way, still waiting on that one. Im guessing its either, something that was carried by last leagues archmage and grim broken and in standard.

Or it doesnt exist. Cause you just have no idea what you are talking about when it comes to these spells.


can you share your solar orb endgame build by poeninja or maxroll or sth?
im just curious
Can't disagree more about all the cold spell comments.

Slow orbs are AMAZING because I need them to be slow in order to spam Ice Nova on screen borders pack or detonate.

Frost Bomb is nice as an extra layer of chill/freeze and for boss and statics.

Did you care to even raise your passives ? perma-freezing mobs while removing their cold resistance what not to like ?

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