GGG, Stop Destroying Your Own Game!

As a player who’s been here since the POE1 beta and supported you through POE2’s 0.2EA, I’ve reached my breaking point. POE2’s masochistic design ironically highlights how brilliant early POE1 truly was. As a hardcore ARPG enthusiast who’s proudly recruited countless players to POE1, I can’t in good conscience recommend POE2 to anyone anymore.

While the 0.10 beta had understandable growing pains, this 0.2 version fully exposes POE2’s rotten core. Even top streamers - while being diplomatic - admit the game isn’t fun. You’ve polished a turd and called it gold.

Remember POE1’s golden era? Cyclone COC, Barrage COC, Mjölner COC - endless build diversity. Even non-endgame builds delivered exhilarating mapping experiences. ARPG players aren’t masochists - after grueling workdays, we crave relaxing loot explosions, not punishment. Why choose frustration over family time or actual fun games?

I’ve never disparaged other ARPGs, but POE1 earned my praise through limitless possibilities. Unlike D4’s seasonal one-build-per-class monotony, POE1’s complex systems let us conquer content through creativity. Now look what you’ve done to your masterpiece! What viable skills exist now? After every combat I question why I persist in this dumpster fire of a game.

My 75% resists, 1300Life with 1600 ES mean nothing against screen-spanning centaur spears or kamikaze white mobs. Meanwhile, some guildmate with negative resistances facerolls content using an invincibility aura pig? As an SSF veteran who always earned my gear, POE2 offers zero reward for effort. Level 70 without a single movement speed boot drop? Pathetic.

In POE1, hitting level 90 sparked excitement for new builds and gear experiments. POE2 kills all motivation - no skills feel enjoyable. I regret criticizing D4’s simplicity; at least it’s fun, unlike this abomination.

Innovation isn’t wrong, but not when built on flawed logic. Trying to be a "hardcore action game"? Real action games don’t swamp players with dozens of hyper-aggressive mobs simultaneously. When white mobs in T1 maps take 20 minutes to clear, who’s playing whom?

Listen to your community - every criticism is justified. This rant comes from love for POE1 and fading hope for redemption. Wake up before you lose us all.
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alright look i get it you’re mad you’re disappointed maybe even a little betrayed but this whole wall of doom just reads like peak reddit meltdown energy and i’m sorry but i’m not buying the end is nigh because you got slapped around in t1 maps with a scuffed build and a nostalgia filter glued to your face

you’re acting like POE1 beta was some golden utopia of perfect balance and smooth gameplay when really it was janky as hell and we all just didn’t know better yet like yes it had charm and yes it had potential but don’t rewrite history to pretend cyclone COC was some flawless era of enlightenment and not just a broken mechanic duct-taped together with memes and lag

saying POE2 exposes some “rotten core” is just melodramatic like come on you’re not exposing a scandal you’re just having a rough time in early access and suddenly it’s all doom and gloom because your favorite comfy builds aren’t copy-paste OP anymore which maybe says more about your reliance on known meta than the game itself

build diversity is still there but now you actually gotta try a little you can’t just throw together some gear from 2019 and expect to melt screens while watching Netflix and talking to your guild about your dog’s gluten-free diet like yes the floor is harder but that’s the point it’s not POE1 and it's not supposed to be

also the whole “ARPG players aren’t masochists” line is just chef’s kiss irony coming from someone who proudly plays SSF and flexes about their 1600 ES like bro we’ve always been masochists that’s the whole damn identity of this community we brag about suffering we meme about dying we make spreadsheets for fun don’t suddenly act like this is news

and yeah the mobs hit hard and some of them are cracked and yes the centaur spear dudes are terrifying but that’s also kinda awesome like you have to think and adapt which is the whole appeal of POE in the first place not just zoom zoom loot piñata brain off time

also the salt about your guildmate cheesing with aura pig or whatever like come on bro let them cook it’s always been a game of weird busted interactions that’s part of the charm if anything the fact people are finding broken stuff already should give you hope not despair maybe go steal their tech instead of rage-posting on reddit like an abandoned exile

saying the game offers zero reward for effort is just flat-out wrong you might not be seeing it but others are leveling fine, building viable characters, beating bosses, and honestly having a blast while you’re here measuring fun in movement speed boots like there’s some sacred item drop quota the game forgot to deliver you

and lol bringing up D4 as some fun alternative just makes your whole post collapse in on itself like a sad star because if you’re gonna praise D4’s one-button snoozefest over POE2’s depth just because you’re tilted that says more about where you’re at mentally than where the game is mechanically

your “real action games” argument is also kinda wild because like have you played any actual action games lately the chaos the spam the tight dodge windows the threat of being stunlocked by 47 tiny gremlins is part of the action experience this isn’t a walking sim bro it’s an ARPG not a picnic

and yeah ok you want the devs to listen and sure constructive feedback matters but this whole thing is so soaked in bitterness it’s hard to even find the useful parts like you clearly love POE1 and that’s fair but maybe stop demanding POE2 be a carbon copy with better textures and let it be its own beast that’s still learning how to roar

end of the day it’s early access your build’s bad your luck is worse and your patience is fried but that doesn’t mean the game’s doomed it means you’re frustrated and maybe need a snack or a nap or a new build guide because POE2 is messy but it’s also growing and you can either grow with it or keep yelling at clouds like a retired exile with a broken loot filter
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alright look i get it you’re mad you’re disappointed maybe even a little betrayed but this whole wall of doom just reads like peak reddit meltdown energy and i’m sorry but i’m not buying the end is nigh because you got slapped around in t1 maps with a scuffed build and a nostalgia filter glued to your face

you’re acting like POE1 beta was some golden utopia of perfect balance and smooth gameplay when really it was janky as hell and we all just didn’t know better yet like yes it had charm and yes it had potential but don’t rewrite history to pretend cyclone COC was some flawless era of enlightenment and not just a broken mechanic duct-taped together with memes and lag

saying POE2 exposes some “rotten core” is just melodramatic like come on you’re not exposing a scandal you’re just having a rough time in early access and suddenly it’s all doom and gloom because your favorite comfy builds aren’t copy-paste OP anymore which maybe says more about your reliance on known meta than the game itself

build diversity is still there but now you actually gotta try a little you can’t just throw together some gear from 2019 and expect to melt screens while watching Netflix and talking to your guild about your dog’s gluten-free diet like yes the floor is harder but that’s the point it’s not POE1 and it's not supposed to be

also the whole “ARPG players aren’t masochists” line is just chef’s kiss irony coming from someone who proudly plays SSF and flexes about their 1600 ES like bro we’ve always been masochists that’s the whole damn identity of this community we brag about suffering we meme about dying we make spreadsheets for fun don’t suddenly act like this is news

and yeah the mobs hit hard and some of them are cracked and yes the centaur spear dudes are terrifying but that’s also kinda awesome like you have to think and adapt which is the whole appeal of POE in the first place not just zoom zoom loot piñata brain off time

also the salt about your guildmate cheesing with aura pig or whatever like come on bro let them cook it’s always been a game of weird busted interactions that’s part of the charm if anything the fact people are finding broken stuff already should give you hope not despair maybe go steal their tech instead of rage-posting on reddit like an abandoned exile

saying the game offers zero reward for effort is just flat-out wrong you might not be seeing it but others are leveling fine, building viable characters, beating bosses, and honestly having a blast while you’re here measuring fun in movement speed boots like there’s some sacred item drop quota the game forgot to deliver you

and lol bringing up D4 as some fun alternative just makes your whole post collapse in on itself like a sad star because if you’re gonna praise D4’s one-button snoozefest over POE2’s depth just because you’re tilted that says more about where you’re at mentally than where the game is mechanically

your “real action games” argument is also kinda wild because like have you played any actual action games lately the chaos the spam the tight dodge windows the threat of being stunlocked by 47 tiny gremlins is part of the action experience this isn’t a walking sim bro it’s an ARPG not a picnic

and yeah ok you want the devs to listen and sure constructive feedback matters but this whole thing is so soaked in bitterness it’s hard to even find the useful parts like you clearly love POE1 and that’s fair but maybe stop demanding POE2 be a carbon copy with better textures and let it be its own beast that’s still learning how to roar

end of the day it’s early access your build’s bad your luck is worse and your patience is fried but that doesn’t mean the game’s doomed it means you’re frustrated and maybe need a snack or a nap or a new build guide because POE2 is messy but it’s also growing and you can either grow with it or keep yelling at clouds like a retired exile with a broken loot filter

First off, I'm not some Reddit power user - at most I watch Twitch streams from professional players. I'm simply voicing my frustrations. While I respect your enthusiasm for the game, do you genuinely believe version 0.2 represents an improvement over 0.1? I understand this is Early Access, but that shouldn't mean we have to tolerate everything like it's some sort of compliance test. The ideal scenario would be building upon 0.1's foundation to let various builds shine, not this current state.

When 0.1 launched, I found it challenging too. I had my complaints, but pushed through to level 97 through sheer persistence. I theorycrafted builds, farmed all my gear through legitimate means, and constantly optimized my setup. But do you honestly think 0.2's current numerical values reflect proper game balance? Is this loot drop rate reasonable? Are these damage numbers truly intentional?

I embrace difficulty and welcome challenges, but there's a line between challenge and pure masochism. The movement speed boots example was metaphorical - I'm not some efficiency-obsessed min-maxer. A build that can map comfortably for enjoyment would suffice; endgame doesn't need to be my ultimate goal. If you consider my current build non-viable, how many builds/skills can actually compete with these overtuned numbers? Must I conform to whatever's meta?

For context, check my primary account's registration date - I'm no newcomer to PoE, and this isn't even my first account. I've never abused overpowered meta builds, exploited bugs, engaged in RMT, or used magic find stats last league. When you talk about overcoming adversity through adaptation, how exactly do you propose that with the current loot scarcity? Maybe I'm being unreasonable here - perhaps this is just my personal struggle rather than a widespread issue.
if they keep going down this rabbit hole, this so called hardcore slow paced rewarding combat arpg is gonna end up being a boring game where each class only has 3 viable builds, and guess what, that game will only catch people for a few weeks until they get bored.... you guys have the key to success in poe1.
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alright look i get it you’re mad you’re disappointed maybe even a little betrayed but this whole wall of doom just reads like peak reddit meltdown energy and i’m sorry but i’m not buying the end is nigh because you got slapped around in t1 maps with a scuffed build and a nostalgia filter glued to your face

you’re acting like POE1 beta was some golden utopia of perfect balance and smooth gameplay when really it was janky as hell and we all just didn’t know better yet like yes it had charm and yes it had potential but don’t rewrite history to pretend cyclone COC was some flawless era of enlightenment and not just a broken mechanic duct-taped together with memes and lag

saying POE2 exposes some “rotten core” is just melodramatic like come on you’re not exposing a scandal you’re just having a rough time in early access and suddenly it’s all doom and gloom because your favorite comfy builds aren’t copy-paste OP anymore which maybe says more about your reliance on known meta than the game itself

build diversity is still there but now you actually gotta try a little you can’t just throw together some gear from 2019 and expect to melt screens while watching Netflix and talking to your guild about your dog’s gluten-free diet like yes the floor is harder but that’s the point it’s not POE1 and it's not supposed to be

also the whole “ARPG players aren’t masochists” line is just chef’s kiss irony coming from someone who proudly plays SSF and flexes about their 1600 ES like bro we’ve always been masochists that’s the whole damn identity of this community we brag about suffering we meme about dying we make spreadsheets for fun don’t suddenly act like this is news

and yeah the mobs hit hard and some of them are cracked and yes the centaur spear dudes are terrifying but that’s also kinda awesome like you have to think and adapt which is the whole appeal of POE in the first place not just zoom zoom loot piñata brain off time

also the salt about your guildmate cheesing with aura pig or whatever like come on bro let them cook it’s always been a game of weird busted interactions that’s part of the charm if anything the fact people are finding broken stuff already should give you hope not despair maybe go steal their tech instead of rage-posting on reddit like an abandoned exile

saying the game offers zero reward for effort is just flat-out wrong you might not be seeing it but others are leveling fine, building viable characters, beating bosses, and honestly having a blast while you’re here measuring fun in movement speed boots like there’s some sacred item drop quota the game forgot to deliver you

and lol bringing up D4 as some fun alternative just makes your whole post collapse in on itself like a sad star because if you’re gonna praise D4’s one-button snoozefest over POE2’s depth just because you’re tilted that says more about where you’re at mentally than where the game is mechanically

your “real action games” argument is also kinda wild because like have you played any actual action games lately the chaos the spam the tight dodge windows the threat of being stunlocked by 47 tiny gremlins is part of the action experience this isn’t a walking sim bro it’s an ARPG not a picnic

and yeah ok you want the devs to listen and sure constructive feedback matters but this whole thing is so soaked in bitterness it’s hard to even find the useful parts like you clearly love POE1 and that’s fair but maybe stop demanding POE2 be a carbon copy with better textures and let it be its own beast that’s still learning how to roar

end of the day it’s early access your build’s bad your luck is worse and your patience is fried but that doesn’t mean the game’s doomed it means you’re frustrated and maybe need a snack or a nap or a new build guide because POE2 is messy but it’s also growing and you can either grow with it or keep yelling at clouds like a retired exile with a broken loot filter

First off, I'm not some Reddit power user - at most I watch Twitch streams from professional players. I'm simply voicing my frustrations. While I respect your enthusiasm for the game, do you genuinely believe version 0.2 represents an improvement over 0.1? I understand this is Early Access, but that shouldn't mean we have to tolerate everything like it's some sort of compliance test. The ideal scenario would be building upon 0.1's foundation to let various builds shine, not this current state.

When 0.1 launched, I found it challenging too. I had my complaints, but pushed through to level 97 through sheer persistence. I theorycrafted builds, farmed all my gear through legitimate means, and constantly optimized my setup. But do you honestly think 0.2's current numerical values reflect proper game balance? Is this loot drop rate reasonable? Are these damage numbers truly intentional?

I embrace difficulty and welcome challenges, but there's a line between challenge and pure masochism. The movement speed boots example was metaphorical - I'm not some efficiency-obsessed min-maxer. A build that can map comfortably for enjoyment would suffice; endgame doesn't need to be my ultimate goal. If you consider my current build non-viable, how many builds/skills can actually compete with these overtuned numbers? Must I conform to whatever's meta?

For context, check my primary account's registration date - I'm no newcomer to PoE, and this isn't even my first account. I've never abused overpowered meta builds, exploited bugs, engaged in RMT, or used magic find stats last league. When you talk about overcoming adversity through adaptation, how exactly do you propose that with the current loot scarcity? Maybe I'm being unreasonable here - perhaps this is just my personal struggle rather than a widespread issue.


Here. I'll say it in plain English.

PoE 2 is a different game, with a different goal. It's in EARLY ACCESS. And is going to continue changing, and receiving lots of polish and refinement.


You are acting like this is a finished product. People saying "I like this" Don't mean keep the game exactly the same as it is RIGHT NOW. They are saying "I like the direction the game is going in".

Your feedback is valuable. But the assumptions aren't. The expectation of PoE 1 mechanics in PoE 2 to make you happy - different game. You might get some of them. But if you like these mechanics so much. PoE 1 exists for you. PoE 2 doesn't need to copy them all.

The company quite literally separated the games, because they wanted to keep PoE 1 intact for the people that love it - YOU.

PoE 2 is going to change. Buckle up, enjoy the ride.
Last edited by Akedomo#3573 on Apr 7, 2025, 6:48:43 AM
Relaxing loot explosions? Destroying pony pinatas and zooming through the rainbows?

Yeah wrong game, you're talking about PoE 1.

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