Negative Reviews are LOUD - STICK TO VISION

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CroDanZ#1818 wrote:

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Fast forward 2 weeks. The defensive layers don't work, just like last time, and the time before that. "Time of need" is a short term solution. People are currently abusing the wisps to 1 shot boss's, and the pokemon pets for screen wide clears.

This is the part where you say "Just Get GOOD" right? "Find a solution, stop complaining" "Don't do that abusive thing that wasn't intended"... Right???
Hahahahahaha

Nah man I play the game as intended and simply have fun doing so, I don't care about metas, 100 Divine farms/hour or whatever.....If it takes me 1 month to reach certain endgame than it takes 1 month, as a gamer for 3 decades now I have no stress here. :)

Season runs for 4 months, more than enough time to beat all content 0.2.0 has to offer ....the complainers here just want to "finish the league" within 1-2 weeks and look for every possible OP glitch or bug to do so + complain if GGG fixes it.

For what? To complain in the forums that "theres nothing to do" after facerolling everything within a very short time due to bugs or inbalanced skills? ^^

You sir are why I haven't completely lost faith in forums or humanity.

I agree with everything you said, and I'm honored you didn't take offense to my words. I think you understand what I'm saying.

There are many people who play games with the specific intent to have fun in the ways you deem unfun. For most of these people, there are time constraints that limit the amount they can play, because of Real Life, and being an Adult. This causes multiple issues including but not just limited to the things you brought up. From your point of view, these players should just... Go away??

The TLDR is, making something take longer, by taking power from the people doing the thing, doesn't solve anything and only creates MORE problems.
I bought the game for a friend, a hardcore gamer by every definition. Been at it for 30 years. It took him 100 hours to get to level 46 on the previous patch. It was fun listening to him telling me about what he went thru.
He already just, doesn't care about the game. THAT kills ME because I love "The Idea" of this game.

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saashaa#5518 wrote:

The Community that already is stick to POE 2 want POE 2 to remain it's identity: methodical and slower, less over-stimulating gameplay with synergies, rolls and hard campain, toned for synergies enemies where bosses can one shot you when you are not patient and care less.

It's not "methodical and slower". They nerfed player damage without giving us meaningful defenses or at least nerfing monster power as well. Which only results in even fewer builds being viable. I don't think anyone playing on HC is enjoying it right now.

I mean i love slow and tactical gameplay. My favorite skills in 0.1 were resonating shield and magma barrier, i'm one of those people who literally enjoy active blocking in an ARPG. But this is not it. Most of the time i end up just backpedaling because i do zdps and monsters can kill me 0.2 seconds. It's not fun and it's not tactical or methodical.

Except for what they did with towers, they doubled down on everything that people complained about in 0.1 and broke the stuff people enjoyed. Most folks PRAISED the campaign in 0.1 and how it was perfectly balanced and how they wanted the endgame to feel the same, just pointing out that it takes too long. Well now it takes even longer and instead of a perfectly balanced experience it turned into slogfest. Shit i can swear they made some campaign maps, like traitor's passage, even BIGGER than they were before.

We appreciated how some bad map modifiers from poe1 got tuned down in the sequel. WELL, it's 0.2 and enter 22% temporal chains in low level maps!

They made an entire new ascendancy revolving around parrying and combos but kept endgame as fast as it was in 0.1. Except breaches, because people enjoyed breaches.

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onetruelai#7327 wrote:

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saashaa#5518 wrote:

The Community that already is stick to POE 2 want POE 2 to remain it's identity: methodical and slower, less over-stimulating gameplay with synergies, rolls and hard campain, toned for synergies enemies where bosses can one shot you when you are not patient and care less.

It's not "methodical and slower". They nerfed player damage without giving us meaningful defenses or at least nerfing monster power as well. Which only results in even fewer builds being viable. I don't think anyone playing on HC is enjoying it right now.

The "assumption" is that 0.2.0B is attempting to do that.

Would you say so or no?

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CroDanZ#1818 wrote:

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Jestik05#6646 wrote:

75% Bad review on Steam say this vision is a no go.

All the drama queens always review bomb on Steam, it's not the first time. ^^

We're 2 days into a new league and people already cry why they can't faceroll all content in the game from level 1.

If they would spend the same time into upgrading theyr character and think a bit outside the box buildvise instead of complaining they already would have an easy time in the game.

I even play warrior and breezed through most of the content so far (Act 1 Cruel one area before endboss atm)....If a boss became a bit more challanging I've simply farmed the previous area few times for 1-2 level and a bit better gear, works every time. ;)

Then all "vision defenders" can do the same, right ? They have keyboards too.

Let's see the numbers after they post their reviews. Indeed no need to post anything. Just a word with positive review... I guess, it will be pretty fair...

really you enjoy this??? well lets hope money will do the talking, whoever wins will decide where poe2 goes i suppose, poe2 is not for me and poe1 is too dated, all i wanted was poe1 with better graphics, what i got was a separate game in a horrible unplayable state meanwhile poe1 is dying and also less and less playable cause how dated it is.

The problem is the mobs. The bosses are mostly fine, but the blue and yellow ones are much harder, worse they have little buddies that swarm.

It's also the speed of how these mobs move and attack compared to all classes.

TLDR: Bumpity Bump Bump.

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Nagisawa#4090 wrote:

The problem is the mobs. The bosses are mostly fine, but the blue and yellow ones are much harder, worse they have little buddies that swarm.

It's also the speed of how these mobs move and attack compared to all classes.

The density of mobs is to high. Declining and negating the core of the game. Mostly explosions just clear everything. I think like decreasing map size by 30% and making encounters harder - but at all when we sum "map clear" to have the same time. Should be a idea to make that slower- but packed with action gameplay core of poe 2 offering.

Now they are goin wrong way attracting checkpoints like holy-grail and toning game to checkpoint and not the core of combat.

As i reached act 3 i don't need to use synergies anymore and game get boring just holding one spear-throw button.

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You sir are why I haven't completely lost faith in forums or humanity.

I agree with everything you said, and I'm honored you didn't take offense to my words. I think you understand what I'm saying.

There are many people who play games with the specific intent to have fun in the ways you deem unfun. For most of these people, there are time constraints that limit the amount they can play, because of Real Life, and being an Adult. This causes multiple issues including but not just limited to the things you brought up. From your point of view, these players should just... Go away??

The TLDR is, making something take longer, by taking power from the people doing the thing, doesn't solve anything and only creates MORE problems.
I bought the game for a friend, a hardcore gamer by every definition. Been at it for 30 years. It took him 100 hours to get to level 46 on the previous patch. It was fun listening to him telling me about what he went thru.
He already just, doesn't care about the game. THAT kills ME because I love "The Idea" of this game.

Don't worry, havent felt any offense....I think most of us here are old & well educated enough to conversate politely like a normal human being, even if oppinions are different.

Btw I have limited time aswell....I run an own company and practicaly work 8-10 hours a day, 7 days the week (I have maybe 2 weeks off per year if I'm lucky ^^).

It's all about propper time management and efficiency to have success, not only in real life.....and having a girlfriend who don't complain about your hobby being a gamer. :D

An no they should not go away in my oppinion but they should at least give the game more than just 3 days before complaining....The league runs for 4 months and people quit the game & complain because they can't faceroll all T15+ content within 3 days, I wish I would have the same problems in my life. ^^

And don't understand me wrong, I have many critics aswell and I even try to report them in an constructive way, but most of the complains here are that they can't 1-tap all content = game bad.

I mean they're so many other ARPGs on the market where people can satisfy theyr power fantasy by 1-hitting all content from level 1 till endgame without any effort, why want they POE2 be the same?

Can't we fans of a bit more challanging playstyle not have just 1 game that fullfills this criteria?....JUst 1 out of 100s on the market.

And it's not even that challanging in POE2, for some encounter during campaign you just have to go to the previous area and farm it 1-2 times for some level and maybe better gear and you can easely beat every boss in the campaign. ^^

But some people here acting like they have to play Sekiro on hardest difficulty blindfold with a Banana as controller, thats how they describe the current difficulty in POE2. XD

+1 to this thread.

Enough with the negativity. I don't want to blast, I don't want to farm, I don't want to engage with "exalts per hour" statistics and how many hours it took streamer X to complete the campaign. If I wanted all that I could just play POE1.

What I want is a new game, a different game, one that is focused on GAMEPLAY and not "blasting" 12 hours a day while watching TV.

It might be slow and tedious to some, but some players don't plan to play it 12 hours straight.

GGG, keep doing what you are doing. There is still a lot of work to do but just keep following your vision. Whatever people say, it's at least different. And in today's world that's already earned my respect.