Spears are severely undertuned

Hey

Trying out spears right now and im dealing like a third of the damage i do from maces.
I take ages to kill enemies, most spells are just not worth using out of the gate at all.
Early game experience is HORRIBLE with spears right now.

The only "Spell" that does any damage is Stab. The Auto attack.
Please dont make Auto Attack the best spell, its just boring.

Combo Whirl 3x into twister? Not killing normal Mobs instantly with a 4 spell combo. Not cool.

Up the damage please, thanks.

And no, i will not give it more time to scale.
If the early game experience is horrible, i just cant be arsed to bite through that. Too many other games that dont have a horrible early game experience, which is a shame.

The argument "It gets good after X hours" is just bullshit. Give us a good early game experience ffs.

Remember also Mace trade off is speed for damage.

You get more mobility/speed for Spear as a trade-off for damage too.

Do you know the scaling in mid/late-game?

Like you're in campaign right? Level 20? Maybe it ramps up later?

Give it some more time..

switches my hunterss to chaos bolt contagion ED


no other way

i mean it still sucks and makes u wonder how many monkeys work for FFF but yeah..


damn i hate this game/company

I was doing the rust king and leaning into the combo system. parrying the waves of mobs, disengage (which felt clunky because there is no leeway on targeting the parried mob), into an explosive spear, then whirling thrust x 3 on top of the fire, into fire tornados with extra proj. It was barely doing more than just basic attacking and getting a faster stagger. Most of the bosses attacks cannot be parried. It is hard to tell what can/can't be parried. It usually involved trial an error and opening yourself up to a heavy stun.

I'm hoping the next row of skills or some of the support gems make the parry > disengage a bit less clunky.

Exactly this.

Why should i go through hoops to multiple spell comboes when auto attack just straight up does more damage? It feels horrible, straight and simple.

If i do a combo that seems to be inteded by the game reward me with Damage. If not, why bother?

Flamewall + Spear Throw does not kill minions at level 2 as a level 4 character in one hit.
Twister through flame wall the same.

Do not get me started with Whirling Slash, just horrible early game experience.

I can't even get through the first boss in Clearfell! WTF?!

And WE NEED GEAR STARTING IN CLEARFELL!

Spears are complete dogshit. I cannot believe explosive spear has a 5 second fuse and if you throw a second spear it deletes the other spear BEFORE IT EXPLODES. Like actually wtf. If you hold the skill button it just throws infinite spears that don't explode. Who came up with this shit? 🤣

I personally can't wait for them to release traps so i can wait 30 seconds for the trap to arm and than watch it do less damage than an auto attack, it will be peak "MeaningFULL and engaging game play".

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Oniji#5988 wrote:

I was doing the rust king and leaning into the combo system. parrying the waves of mobs, disengage (which felt clunky because there is no leeway on targeting the parried mob), into an explosive spear, then whirling thrust x 3 on top of the fire, into fire tornados with extra proj. It was barely doing more than just basic attacking and getting a faster stagger. Most of the bosses attacks cannot be parried. It is hard to tell what can/can't be parried. It usually involved trial an error and opening yourself up to a heavy stun.

I'm hoping the next row of skills or some of the support gems make the parry > disengage a bit less clunky.

This game is "all about combos" like this, thats why it sucks. ur supposed to combo 5 moves, but by that time u are most likely surrounded and dead. It doesnt work, thats why it always end up being one button builds at late game anyway.

GGG really needs to get their head out of their ass.

I agree most of the stuff seems pretty undertuned, but try: Rake + Stomping Ground + Brutality.

Literally just a one-button build and it out DPSs everything else. Got the idea from Mathil (ofc lol).

When they nerf that (might be tomorrow with how much stronger it is compared to everything else), I think Fangs of Frost will be the strongest thing, but that needs parrying, which sucks cause if you parry two attacks from a stronger monster you're heavy stunned for 3 f***ing seconds lol.