GGG, you need to fix Alva npc flipping NOW!

The Alva NPC was added to streamline currency trading between players. I highly doubt the intention was to let players profit 5,000 Exalted Orbs in just a few hours using only gold. Now stop trolling... please?
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loopax55#5378 wrote:
The Alva NPC was added to streamline currency trading between players. I highly doubt the intention was to let players profit 5,000 Exalted Orbs in just a few hours using only gold. Now stop trolling... please?


Darling, the currency exchange is just QoL for normal folks - it's not that deep.

Ppl always flipped the market and could make insane amounts of currency, this has literally nothing to do with Alva.
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ok bro whatever you say, I don't reply to you anymore, go back at Alva and make some more exalts and stop crying that your "farming" might end.

If it were just 'QoL,' it wouldn’t be enabling risk-free, infinite flipping for massive profits. This isn’t normal market flipping, it’s an exploit made possible because of how Alva works. But sure, keep pretending it’s 'not that deep' while the economy burns
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loopax55#5378 wrote:
ok bro whatever you say, I don't reply to you anymore, go back at Alva and make some more exalts and stop crying that your "farming" might end.


I guess you are confused.
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loopax55#5378 wrote:
The issue is that it completely breaks the game's economy and progression. If anyone can sit at Alva and print Exalts with zero effort, it makes actual farming pointless. Prices skyrocket, Divine Orbs become insanely expensive, and regular players who don’t abuse this are left behind.

A healthy economy means players earn their wealth through gameplay, not by abusing a broken system. If this was just ‘having fun,’ it wouldn’t be causing Divine Orbs to hit 500+ Exalts.


Okay... so you still didn't understand what's happening..

People are not "printing Exalts with zero effort".
All those Exalts are real, they are owned by players and they already exist within the economy. You can REMOVE ALVA COMPLETELY and basically nothing would change. All that would change is that you, loopax55#5378 would be completely oblivious to what's happening around the game's economy.

You know all those 20:1 offers you're taking to re-buy Exalts for your 1k Regals? They're all REAL. There are countless real players exchanging Exalts for Regals right now.

Stop saying "THE BANK IS CAUSING INFLATION!!11!!" because that's not what happens in the real world and it's not what's happening in PoE either.

The fact you keep repeating "printing exalts", "infinite flipping", and similar things only are there to prove you still don't know what you're talking about...
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Your strawman argument....The issue isn’t that Alva is 'printing' Exalts—nobody said the NPC creates them from nothing. The problem is that the UI hides the real ratios, allowing players to exploit a broken exchange system to farm absurd amounts of profit without effort or risk.

If people can flip currency back and forth for guaranteed gains, that floods the market with easy Exalts, which devalues Exalts and inflates Divine Orb prices.

Remove Alva, and suddenly those abusers can’t sit there making thousands of Exalts by pressing a couple of buttons. That alone proves the system is broken.
ok.. effort..is just on getting the gold (which is easy) before you comment something stupid again... BRO ARE YOU KIDDING ME ALSO ? you can't understand that by "infinite" it means that you can do it non stop? Literally you can just farm gold instead and stay at alva to make your currency, you don't need rarity you don't need anything besides gold to get exalts from alva. wtf...stop playing dumb that you don't understand.
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loopax55#5378 wrote:
Your strawman argument....The issue isn’t that Alva is 'printing' Exalts—nobody said the NPC creates them from nothing. The problem is that the UI hides the real ratios, allowing players to exploit a broken exchange system to farm absurd amounts of profit without effort or risk.

If people can flip currency back and forth for guaranteed gains, that floods the market with easy Exalts, which devalues Exalts and inflates Divine Orb prices.

Remove Alva, and suddenly those abusers can’t sit there making thousands of Exalts by pressing a couple of buttons. That alone proves the system is broken.

You see... when you post, you make it clear people can know you have no clue what you're talking about
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loopax55#5378 wrote:
The issue isn’t that Alva is 'printing' Exalts—nobody said the NPC creates them from nothing.

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loopax55#5378 wrote:
If people can flip currency back and forth for guaranteed gains, that floods the market with easy Exalts, which devalues Exalts and inflates Divine Orb prices.

These two lines are in direct contradiction to themselves.

Either Alva only gives you Exalts that are already in the market (thus not creating them from nothing), or Alva creates them from nothing and "floods the market with easy Exalts".
You can't have both.

When you "made" 150 Exalts in one hour, all you did was buy 150 Exalts from other players for 3000 Regals. You literally just transferred Exalts from players A, B, C... to loopax55#5378 and at the same time, you transferred 3000 Regals to players A, B, C, etc...

That's it. Think of Alva as just a place where you can transfer money from one bank account to the other at the cost of a fee. That's literally just it.
The inflation is already there, removing people's ability to exchange currency among themselves won't change the inflation.
If I had to take a guess, it would make things worse: people would, instead of exchanging Exalts for random currency, would outright exchange it all for Divines or for Gear: high Exalt supply, high Divine/Gear demand
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This guy is just twisting words to act like he "debunked" something, when in reality, he's missing the core issue.


You’re trying really hard to make this a black-and-white argument, but it’s not. Nobody said Alva creates Exalts from nothing. The issue is that Alva enables a risk-free loop where players can extract Exalts at a much faster rate than normal gameplay allows.

Yes, those Exalts already exist but before, getting them required actual effort: farming, trading, crafting, etc. Now, players are bypassing all of that and making thousands just by clicking a few buttons. That accelerates the economy in a completely unnatural way, which is why Divine prices are out of control.

Your bank analogy is flawed because real-world banks don’t let you double your money in minutes. And if they did, guess what? It’d be called an exploit.
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loopax55#5378 wrote:
This guy is just twisting words to act like he "debunked" something, when in reality, he's missing the core issue.


You’re trying really hard to make this a black-and-white argument, but it’s not. Nobody said Alva creates Exalts from nothing. The issue is that Alva enables a risk-free loop where players can extract Exalts at a much faster rate than normal gameplay allows.

Yes, those Exalts already exist but before, getting them required actual effort: farming, trading, crafting, etc. Now, players are bypassing all of that and making thousands just by clicking a few buttons. That accelerates the economy in a completely unnatural way, which is why Divine prices are out of control.

Your bank analogy is flawed because real-world banks don’t let you double your money in minutes. And if they did, guess what? It’d be called an exploit.

I'm kind of astonished at how, even after so many replies, with every new post you're capable of making yourself look more and more ignorant about not only basic macroeconomics, but also about this game...

Where do you think currency in Alva's Currency Exchange comes from? Literally every single currency there was dropped somewhere through "actual effort": monsters killed, bought in Rituals, etc. Not a single piece of currency was magically made through Alva, nor through trading, nor through crafting. On the contrary: crafting removes currency from the market

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loopax55#5378 wrote:
Your bank analogy is flawed because real-world banks don’t let you double your money in minutes. And if they did, guess what? It’d be called an exploit.

Huh.... strange.... when I turned 18 my dad created a bank account for me, and then my money more than doubled when he transferred $200 to it... Guess we were exploiting the system...
TINFOIL HATS ON BOIS AND GRILS!!! WIRE TRANSFERS ARE AN EXPLOIT OF THE SYSTEM!!11!
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